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fcopaja
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   Posted 8/5/2008 4:34 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi, I couldn't find any topics on this.
I'm with F2008 and need to write a piece for violin and cello that uses scordatura for both instruments:
 
Descending, F, A, C, F for violin, Bb, Eb, G, C for cello
 
What should I do in order to have the notes notated as for a non transposing tuning, but sounding transposed?
I also have to deal with cases in wich I have to provide the specific string, and so the playback must recognize it. I mean, for example, a written E could be played on first open string, sounding F, or in the second string, sounding E. On both cases I should indicate which string to use.
 
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   Posted 8/6/2008 1:34 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Felipe,
Mahler's fourth symphony - although I haven't seen the work in many years,
Is it possible to view the work and see how he handled scordatura notation?
I though about your question for a while, and tried, unsuccessfully to reach any solution within Finale.
The issue might be that his work was hand engraved and perhaps Finale cannot do that which you need.
Sorry
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   Posted 8/6/2008 10:16 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Speaking as a string player, I would like to see "Scordatura E to F, E (down) to A, etc. (I'm assuming you want it tuned down because if you tune it up the string will break) D to C, G to F. Then write a dashed line for the length of the scordatura. If it is for the whole piece, leave this out.

Then, write the notes as if the instrument is not retuned. For instance, if you want to hear an open F, write an E.

As for playback, I'm sure you can do it in several ways. Off the top of my head, I might have the written part a silent one, and then a second staff set to not print that is not transposed, but plays the correct notes.

What you have is essentially a transposing violin, where the E string, the A string, and the D and G strings have differing transpositions. (D and G transpose the same.) So you can't simply set a stock transposition for playback.

Attached is an example I did a while back for a paper on a convoluted (non-practical) way to play a Stravinsky passage. (A long story, but if you really want to know I'll send the paper to anyone who asks.)


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