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Pascual
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Posted 3/30/2009 3:21 PM (GMT -5)

Post Edited (Pascual) : 9/30/2016 4:58:26 PM (GMT-5)

francois_harel
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 557

Posted 3/30/2009 5:33 PM (GMT -5)

What do you mean about Symphonic Choir, is it EWQLSC ?
Francois, Montreal

Francois Harel, Montreal, Canada
QX9650 3.0 GHz on Asus Maximus Formula, 4Gbytes, 4 SATA2 drives. XP Pro and Vista x64.

Finale 2009b, Sonar PE 8.3

Kontakt Player 2 and Kontakt 3, fullGPO, JABB, CoMB

EWQLSO PLAY 1.2.0 Silver and Platinum Plus
Edirol UA-1000, M-Audio Keystation Pro 88

francois_harel
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Total Posts : 557

Posted 3/30/2009 7:17 PM (GMT -5)

Dear Pascual,
I don't know EWQLSC but I use EWQLSO.
You can load the PLAY player via the VST panel. You must put and validate the PLAY dll.
You can load up to 8 vst players so you can load one PLAY and one GPO as you need.
Francois, Montreal

Francois Harel, Montreal, Canada
QX9650 3.0 GHz on Asus Maximus Formula, 4Gbytes, 4 SATA2 drives. XP Pro and Vista x64.

Finale 2009b, Sonar PE 8.3

Kontakt Player 2 and Kontakt 3, fullGPO, JABB, CoMB

EWQLSO PLAY 1.2.0 Silver and Platinum Plus
Edirol UA-1000, M-Audio Keystation Pro 88

francois_harel
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 557

Posted 4/25/2009 9:13 AM (GMT -5)

Dear Pascual,
When you install your PLAY, the installation software copy a .dll file named: play_VST.dll
Search this file. You need to copy this file in the FinaleVST subfolder of your Finale directory.
Then activate your new vst plugin in Finale.
I use PLAY everyday with Finale 2009.
You need F2009 to use vst plugins other than NI ones.
Sorry for that !
Regards,
Francois, Montreal

Francois Harel, Montreal, Canada
QX9650 3.0 GHz on Asus Maximus Formula, 8Gbytes, 4 SATA2 drives. XP Pro and Vista x64.

Finale 2009b, Sonar PE 8.3.1

Kontakt Player 2 and Kontakt 3, fullGPO, JABB, CoMB

EWQLSO PLAY 1.2.3 Silver and Platinum Plus
Edirol UA-1000, M-Audio Keystation Pro 88

francois_harel
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 557

Posted 4/25/2009 12:10 PM (GMT -5)

Dear Pascual,

Be sure to regularly check for PLAY update. The newest one is 1.2.3, version that I tested as beta-tester.
Don't forget that everytime you update your PLAY, the updater always put your new plugin file (the play_VST.dll file) in the same location. So you have to copy the new version of this file each time that you update your PLAY, in the FinaleVST subfolder of your Finale directory. It is necessary !

Keep me in touch about EWQLSC because I don't know it, but was atttract about it. How it works with Finale ?
Do you know the word builder ? Is it works fine with Finale ? Can you automatically feed it with the lyrics that was in Finale ?

Regards,
Francois, Montreal

Francois Harel, Montreal, Canada
QX9650 3.0 GHz on Asus Maximus Formula, 8Gbytes, 4 SATA2 drives. XP Pro and Vista x64.

Finale 2009b, Sonar PE 8.3.1

Kontakt Player 2 and Kontakt 3, fullGPO, JABB, CoMB

EWQLSO PLAY 1.2.3 Silver and Platinum Plus
Edirol UA-1000, M-Audio Keystation Pro 88

francois_harel
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 557

Posted 5/2/2009 9:53 PM (GMT -5)

Dear Pascual,
I usually use fullGPO with Kontakt 3 (K3). As I can see in your signature, you already have fullGPO with probably Kontakt Player 2 (KP2) which was wevry ok as a sample player. I upgraded to K3 because it was cheap ... and I received a small subset of VSL. The next fullGPO probably use Aria. In my opinion, Aria is ok but NI product seems to has more experiences. Personally, I prefer K3 (or even KP2) as Aria. I don't think that you obtain more using fullGPO ver 3 compare to fullGPO ver 2. I don't know !
If you are attracted by EWQLSO, don't buy the Silver edition because it doesn't have pizz bass. Release trail is a very good option.
EWQLSO are wet samples so it's sounds very good. Garritan product are dry samples so you have to add reverb.
Sad that you are so far !!! (Spain) !
F2009 is more tweak to Garritan products... but it was very pleasan to use EWQLSO.
Do you use Vista x64 ?
Francois, Montreal

Francois Harel, Montreal, Canada
QX9650 3.0 GHz on Asus Maximus Formula, 8Gbytes, 4 SATA2 drives. XP Pro and Vista x64.

Finale 2009b, Sonar PE 8.3.1

Kontakt Player 2 and Kontakt 3, fullGPO, JABB, CoMB

EWQLSO PLAY 1.2.3 Silver and Platinum Plus
Edirol UA-1000, M-Audio Keystation Pro 88

francois_harel
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 557

Posted 5/10/2009 8:49 AM (GMT -5)

I will follow you.

Francois

Francois Harel, Montreal, Canada
QX9650 3.0 GHz on Asus Maximus Formula, 8Gbytes, 4 SATA2 drives. XP Pro and Vista x64.

Finale 2009b, Sonar PE 8.3.1

Kontakt Player 2 and Kontakt 3, fullGPO, JABB, CoMB

EWQLSO PLAY 1.2.3 Silver and Platinum Plus
Edirol UA-1000, M-Audio Keystation Pro 88

francois_harel
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 557

Posted 5/12/2009 12:17 PM (GMT -5)

Dear Pascual,

As I don't have EWQLSC, it remains a little bit unclear for me.

First, I think that the Wordbuilder is a distinct application frome ESQLSC, isn't it ?

I saw in forum that the wordbuilder remain a x32 application. However, ESQLSC was control by PLAY which can run as a x32 or a x64 application.

Then, I think that the EW plans to include the wordbuilder inside the next PLAY version (PLAY 2)... but I am not sure.

It is likelythat EWQLSO works well with F2009 as it use PLAY. However, make the link between the word builder and the lyrincs inside F2009 would be probably more difficult.

Francois, Montreal

Francois Harel, Montreal, Canada
QX9650 3.0 GHz on Asus Maximus Formula, 8Gbytes, 4 SATA2 drives. XP Pro and Vista x64.

Finale 2009b, Sonar PE 8.3.1

Kontakt Player 2 and Kontakt 3, fullGPO, JABB, CoMB

EWQLSO PLAY 1.2.3 Silver and Platinum Plus
Edirol UA-1000, M-Audio Keystation Pro 88

Playflute
Life is a take...

Date Joined Aug 2003
Total Posts : 267

Posted 11/5/2009 8:43 AM (GMT -5)

No, at least if you turn off VSTI and use the good old midi out instead in Finale :
if you connect midi out of finale towards a virtual midi port (like midiyoke f.e.) , then midiyoke out into wordbuilder in as a standalone application that will further dispatch into a standalone instance of symphonic choirs play engine.you'll have the choir singing the lyrics with FInale as only midi host... (but obviously it will play the text you've been putting into the wordbuilder, not the lyrics you write into Finale... problem is that if you want other 'vsti' for their beautiful sounds you'll need to also use them as standalone applications through virtual midi ports, since Finale forces you to choose between midi playback and vsti playback. Of course, while assuming the technical feasability of this it seems to be a step back into using the systems of the past (midi out) rather than the presen (vsti)
Maybe I'm missing it but I don't see a way to use the wordbuilder as a vsti. In Sonar the wordbuilder is not a vsti neither... but a 'midi-effect' - analogical to an arpeggiator - but more compliocated since it's sending midi to the 6 midi channels .
Would there be a way to use the 'wordbuilder' as a 'midi-effect' in Finale ?

Serge

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[email protected]
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Date Joined Nov 2010
Total Posts : 1

Posted 11/17/2010 2:28 PM (GMT -5)

Hi Finale:
I am Richard Freeman-Toole
I am still struggling with East/West Symphonic Choirs and Finale. In a communication with Justin P., about two weeks ago, I was told that Finale 2009 and my Mac System (10.6.5) had some incompatibility, so I BOUGHT Finale 2011, specifically to make the Choirs plug-in work. Now I still can't find simple straightforward step by step instructions telling me how to set up the program.

I have some beautiful instructions from fireproof socks.com (Connecting Finale 2007 to East West Symphonic Choirs (EWQLSC) through WordBuilder on OS X) but Finale 2007 is so different from Finale 2009, or 2011, I still can't make it work.

For instance, this picture
no longer exists in Finale 2011.

(MIDI
Play Finale Through Native Instruments
Internal Speaker Playback
etc)

I also have no idea what this paragraph means:

(/Applications/East West/). Set
its MIDI inputs to receive data
from the bus you used as an
output in WordBuilder. In this
example, I chose Apple's IAC
Bus 1 as WordBuilder's MIDI
output, so in Symphonic Choirs,
I will go to File ! Setup !
MIDI and ensure that this bus is
turned ON in my list of input
interfaces. I'm not concerned
about the outputs since the buck
stops here: I have no need to
send MIDI any further.

Searching for answers at the Finale site I found this exchange, which I also have no idea what it means.
Dear Pascual,
When you install your PLAY, the installation software copy a .dll file named: play_VST.dll
Search this file. You need to copy this file in the FinaleVST subfolder of your Finale directory.
Then activate your new vst plugin in Finale.
I use PLAY everyday with Finale 2009.
You need F2009 to use vst plugins other than NI ones.
I have found the file :)
and it was not its fault...
It was in the Common Files\East West\Vstplugins directory.
Everything is working as you said.

I have the feeling that the problem is not in Finale but in Wordbuilder, but I simply don't understand the electronics of it reason it out for myself--I need slavish step by step instructions.

Please help,
RFT

Mike Rosen
himself

Date Joined Feb 2006
Total Posts : 14146

Posted 4/4/2011 3:13 PM (GMT -5)

wish910 said...
In the latest version of EWQLSC V. 2.1.2

EW has added WordBuilder Plug-in into PLAY Engine.

http://www.soundsonline.com/Support

But we can't open WordBuilder Plug-in in Play directly in Finale 2011...

It seems to let Finale crashed for unkown reasons...but in other MIDI Sequencers, we can do as we like.

We hope Finale 2012 can solve this problem.

Finale is not a MIDI sequencer. Accept it, and get on with life.

Mike Rosen
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Print Music 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010; Finale 2010b, 2011b
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Flint
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Total Posts : 3151

Posted 4/4/2011 3:16 PM (GMT -5)

Is this 'tard still necro-bumping threads? Use the "Report to Admin" button on him :-p

woodwind specialist and doubler - Finale 2011b using Speedy Entry - no capslock, GPO 2nd ed. Full version, Garritan Jazz & Big Band, Garritan Concert and Marching Band, Windows Vista 32-bit SP1, 4GB RAM, Soundblaster Audigy II zs

If the composer says in effect to the performer: "I do not care whether you perform my music or not," we cannot argue the matter. But if he indicates: "I want you to perform and respond to this music," then his fundamental duty is to write his music so that it is accessible to interpretation. When the performer cannot approach the composer's meaning because of capriciously obscure notation, he may in effect say to the composer: "Why should I bother to puzzle out your music?" - Gardner Read

Jetcopy
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Date Joined Oct 2000
Total Posts : 4795

Posted 4/4/2011 3:27 PM (GMT -5)

Even though our friend has made some odd posts, Finale does support the use of 3rd party VST/AU sample libraries. This is not an unreasonable request. If a library is not working as expected, he should complain to both MM and EastWest to get this resolved. Regardlessly, this public forum is not the place to post complaints and expect MM to listen.

Macbook Pro OSX 10.6.6, 2.66GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB RAM

Mike Rosen
himself

Date Joined Feb 2006
Total Posts : 14146

Posted 4/4/2011 4:28 PM (GMT -5)

Flint said...
Is this 'tard still necro-bumping threads? Use the "Report to Admin" button on him :-p

I'm afraid we would just be peeing into the wind. He just achieved being the very FIRST person I have set to ignore.

wish910
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Date Joined Jul 2010
Total Posts : 238

Posted 4/6/2011 12:44 PM (GMT -5)

In the latest version of EWQLSC V. 2.1.2

EW has added WordBuilder Plug-in into PLAY Engine.

http://www.soundsonline.com/Support

But we can't open WordBuilder Plug-in in Play directly in Finale 2011...

It seems to let Finale crashed for unkown reasons...but in other MIDI Sequencers, we can do as we like.

We hope Finale 2012 can solve this problem.

CPU: Intel Core i7 920(2.66GHz)

RAM: 16GB DDR3 1333MHz

HD: 2TB

Mother Card: P6T SE

Sound Card: RME Fireface 400

-------------------------

Finale 2011b with GPO 4.0

Cubase 5.1

EWQLSO Platinum Plus

EWQLSC

Vienna Symphonic Library

Project Sam- Symphobia

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Bill Reed
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Date Joined Feb 2001
Total Posts : 1203

Posted 4/6/2011 1:02 PM (GMT -5)

Wordbuilder in Play opens for me without issues. It's no longer the Wordbuilder Plugin, but a button in the Play interface.

Finale 2011b, Notion, Sonar

Win7 x64, 16GB RAM

M-Audio ProFire 2626

Kontakt, VSL VI, VE Pro, EWQL Orch, Choir and Pianos

A closet full of cables, cords, adaptors, etc. that I’d need to moment I got rid of them

Bill Reed
Registered Member

Date Joined Feb 2001
Total Posts : 1203

Posted 4/6/2011 1:02 PM (GMT -5)

Wordbuilder in Play opens for me without issues. It's no longer the Wordbuilder Plugin, but a button in the Play interface.

Finale 2011b, Notion, Sonar

Win7 x64, 16GB RAM

M-Audio ProFire 2626

Kontakt, VSL VI, VE Pro, EWQL Orch, Choir and Pianos

A closet full of cables, cords, adaptors, etc. that I’d need to moment I got rid of them

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