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Wholeogram
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   Posted 3/19/2010 3:03 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

When entering in Hyperscribe in PrintMusic 2009 I will play 1e&a 2e&a…but will show e&a2... It is one or more 16th notes off. Even when I slow the tempo and am certain I am on One. Knowing that "human error” is usually a factor in playing music with a computer it would be nice to edit the rhythm after it is entered with any mistakes.

 

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   Posted 3/19/2010 3:23 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes, it's easy to change the rhythm in the edit stage. In Simple, select the note in question, and then ALT+(number from numberpad) will change the duration. Sometimes I'll make a few changes, and then switch to Speedy so that I can move notes en masse.

But if there a many, many errors, it's sometimes faster to enter directly in Simple or Speedy.



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   Posted 3/19/2010 3:23 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wholeogram said...
When entering in Hyperscribe in PrintMusic 2009 I will play 1e&a 2e&a…but will show e&a2... It is one or more 16th notes off. Even when I slow the tempo and am certain I am on One. Knowing that "human error” is usually a factor in playing music with a computer it would be nice to edit the rhythm after it is entered with any mistakes.

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Thanks,

Mark Smith


Do yourself a favor and enter your notes with Speedy entry and a midi keyboard.

Click on the Speedy entry tool, then hold a note/chord down on the midi keyboard, then push a number from 1-8. (1=64th 2=32th 3=16th 4=8th 5=quarter note 6=half 7 =whole 8=double whole) You will get exactly what you want using this method and you can enter the information in as fast or slow as you like. Once you get good at entering music this way, it is usually faster than playing in real time and having to go back and fix mistakes.


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   Posted 3/19/2010 4:01 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you two. Mike, in my situation I'm trying to MOVE the notes to the left, not so much change the duration. David, thank you. Even though I am aware that Speedy is better (I will most likely revert to that), I was seeing if (moving) edits could be made in HyperScribe, for my wife will enter her composisions. She's the keyboard player, not I. It would take way too long and be too hard for me to know her notes for me to enter Speedy. I'm needing her to enter, then I come in later and tweek.
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   Posted 3/19/2010 4:06 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I's just my opinion, but it usually takes longer to tweak hyperscribe input, than it does to enter the notes in simple or speedy.


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   Posted 3/19/2010 4:16 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wholeogram said...
Thank you two. Mike, in my situation I'm trying to MOVE the notes to the left, not so much change the duration. David, thank you. Even though I am aware that Speedy is better (I will most likely revert to that), I was seeing if (moving) edits could be made in HyperScribe, for my wife will enter her compositions. She's the keyboard player, not I. It would take way too long and be too hard for me to know her notes for me to enter Speedy. I'm needing her to enter, then I come in later and tweek.


Using speedy entry...You can create a new "dummy" staff, copy notes to it using the selection tool, change the rest value at the beginning of the measure to get the notes to move back the desired amount of beats, and then paste the new edited music back into the main staff on the correct beat. Cutting and pasting smaller note/rest values can be a little tricky. But, there is always undo if you make a mistake.


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   Posted 3/19/2010 4:24 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Or in Simple Entry, you can select the entire staff, and drag it back to the left to get the beat back where you want it. This will play havoc with any longer notes, as they will then become broken and tied, but try it.



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   Posted 3/19/2010 4:26 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks David, that kind of workaround just might work. I'll give it a try later :)
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   Posted 3/19/2010 6:26 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I've run into this issue and it's usually caused by the latency settings. For some reason, Finale puts in a high default setting. I lowered it and it fixed the issue. Off the top of my head I can't remember which menu the setting was in.

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   Posted 3/20/2010 10:52 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jim Ortner said...
I've run into this issue and it's usually caused by the latency settings. For some reason, Finale puts in a high default setting. I lowered it and it fixed the issue. Off the top of my head I can't remember which menu the setting was in.

Jim


Wholeogram

Here is the location in case you want to experiment with the settings.

Midi menu/device setup/midi setup/midi in latency


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   Posted 3/20/2010 3:55 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Strange. All of a sudden it worked! I went to the place for latency like you two said, it was already set to "0." Then I HyperScribed, and the 16th notes came in correctly. Maybe just opening that MIDI In tool corrected it? Like I said strange. Thanks again for both of your help! If I have any further issues I'll know where to go! :-)
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   Posted 3/21/2010 4:46 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think you may have run into a bug as I had the same thing happen to me a few weeks ago. It was set for 0 but when I closed the window it was working right.

The first time I used the function the latency was set for 100 ms. Not sure how Finale figures out it's initial latency setting.

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