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Steve S.
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   Posted 5/28/2011 6:56 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm scoring a piece in which I need to change from 4/4 to 6/8 on the final quaver of a 4/4 bar. Finale appears only to permit the change at the start of a bar. Does anybody know how to accomplish this.

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   Posted 5/28/2011 7:36 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As far as I know the only way is to fake it by dividing your bar into two bars and hiding/changing time sigs.

IOW:

1st part of the bar is set up as 7/8, display as 4/4; you may need to mess around with beaming.
Final quaver is set up as a new bar of 1/8, display as 6/8.
Depending on what you want, the RH barline of the 7/8 bar can be hidden (or the LH barline of the 1/8)
If bar numbers are important, you will need to mess around with measure number regions.

Fiddly, but it works.

There may be a better way; if anyone else knows of one, I'd be interested as well.


 
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   Posted 5/28/2011 8:09 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Here you go:


This approach is slightly different from Gareth's. Instead of his "fake measure", I use a "fake time signature".


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   Posted 5/28/2011 8:11 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
OK Doug, that's not how I interpreted the OP's request; I was assuming that the final eighth of the 4/4 bar would be a "pick-up" eighth in 6/8, where eighth = eighth, but of course my assumption could easily have been wrong.

However I don't fully understand your example, because the "complex" measure in the 2nd line isn't actually the same as the 1st line, ie. there are only 6 eighth notes prior to the time sig, where, if I understand correctly there should be 7 ... ?


 
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   Posted 5/28/2011 8:38 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
My mistake. I keep forgetting what "quaver" means! Assuming the interpretation in my first example was correct, my second example should have looked like this in measure 2:



(If the final 8th of the 4/4 measure were just a "pick up" to the following 6/8 measure, I don't think I'd bother with a premature time change.)


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   Posted 5/28/2011 10:51 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Many thanks for the suggestions. A great help.

Steve Silverman


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