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   Posted 8/10/2011 1:13 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Looks like Sibelius supports DTP features with Hierarchical styles within scores. For a book author (such as myself) this potentially eliminates the need for using Adobe Indesign for layout. That's huge for me. Will Finale support anything similar? If not, looks like it's a done deal.
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   Posted 8/10/2011 7:45 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
i have a similar issue. Just got an update notice for Sibelius 7. I want to upgrade to a 64 bit version of either but not both.
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   Posted 8/9/2011 6:39 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Any update on Finale 2012 yet? A more specific date perhaps? Even a month? I'm about to finally upgrade from 2009, and I'm assuming that now it's worth waiting for 2012 before I do so.

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   Posted 7/31/2011 11:31 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have not found a problem with CC11. It works fine, as does CC7 (although I really do not like or suggest the use of CC7 - any library that is well programmed will not force you to use CC7 for dynamics). Perhaps you have not set your Human Playback to use CC11 instead of CC1 for those samples? Note that making rules based on library or patch name will not work here, due to a bug with Kontakt support.

CC1 is a bigger problem. The CC1 setting in HP is designed for Garritan libraries, where key velocity is used for attack. It sends key velocity values equal to the attack of the notes. Many libraries that use CC1 as a dynamic controller also use key velocity as a secondary dynamic controller. This results in somewhat random dynamic differences from note to note, which can sound pretty awful. There should be two CC1 options, one for CC1 with key velocity for Garritan instruments, and one with CC1 with key velocity treated as a secondary dynamic controller as it is in most libraries.
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   Posted 7/31/2011 10:17 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

"Makemusic can solve the problem of MIDI CC#11. In Finale 2011, users can't change dynamics when using MIDI CC#11 with East West Libraries so that users think the crescendo don't work at all when using EW. Therefore, we hope we can draw dynamic hairpins as we like and hear them work better in Finale 2012. The problem has existed for many years since Finale 2007."

It's also a similar problem for the playback of CC#7, volume, through a text expression (regardless of the the library or synth), where the volume is changed by a percentage of the existing value rather than by the midi value.   If your midi volume is 80, changing it to 90 via text expression CC7 sets the new volume to 72, not 90.

I've seen other software I used either go belly-up or (as in the case of Adobe Audition) "upgraded" but in actuality stripped down to the point of uselessness.  I hope this doesn't occur with Finale. 

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   Posted 7/29/2011 11:17 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
how much was it?
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   Posted 7/18/2011 11:17 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hello, Justin:

We hope:

1.A real 64-bit Version of Finale 2012 to support more RAM in a 64-bit OS.
(There have been 64-bit version Logic, GPO, Cubase, Nuendo and so on for sereral years.)

2.Makemusic can solve the problem of MIDI CC#11. In Finale 2011, users can't change dynamics when using MIDI CC#11 with East West Libraries so that users think the crescendo don't work at all when using EW. Therefore, we hope we can draw dynamic hairpins as we like and hear them work better in Finale 2012. The problemn has existed for many years since Finale 2007.

Thank you a lot.


 
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Post Edited (wish910) : 7/18/2011 10:20:25 PM (GMT-5)

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   Posted 7/17/2011 2:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think they have just realised something that's been stated on the forum for several years now. Any company that is not getting new customers will carry on pretty much as before for a few years relying on their established users for subscription income; the downward trend starts slowly, but it will gradually steepen until they reach a point where it becomes precipitous, by which time it is usually too late to do anything about the situation. The early warning sign is what a number of people have been saying on the forum, that when they look at new users (students, for instance), Sibelius is overwhelmingly the favourite. Given that information, they must know that they are on the road to crisis.

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   Posted 7/17/2011 2:12 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Fritz Meissner said...


"For the past three years van Lith has provided interim CEO leadership to companies in start-up, high growth and crisis phases, in addition to running her own internet-marketing services company."


Fritz


Since Finale is neither a start-up, nor a high-growth company, this is the phrase that bothers me. Do they know something that we don't?



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   Posted 7/17/2011 10:55 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Following on from that, the press release about the new CEO appointment also hints that there may be significant changes coming for MM products (not stated, but implied by the new CEO's background, I think) :

"Karen has an exceptional record of transforming companies through conversions to new technology platforms and growth acceleration. We believe MakeMusic is poised to enter into its next phase of growth as we invest in new products and reposition our current products to take advantage of newer technologies. "

"For the past three years van Lith has provided interim CEO leadership to companies in start-up, high growth and crisis phases, in addition to running her own internet-marketing services company."

We may be in for some interesting times.

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   Posted 7/17/2011 10:46 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The more I think about this announcement, the more I think there may be something genuinely significant happening. Here is an excerpt from the sharenolders' meeting in early March :

"Charlie Pine: Speaking of the development efforts, are you going to be able to get your products out on time this year?

Jeff Koch: That is the plan. I mean that with...

Charlie Pine: Well, that was the plan last year also.

Jeff Koch: Yes. And that is why I said, I mean that with an underline, that’s the plan, period."

Jeff Koch being the then interim CEO of MakeMusic.

Now we have a new CEO (Karen van Lith) turning around, and on top of that telling the shareholders that they will have to take a hit on revenue. freaked A CEO can get away with that once in their career (at the beginning when you can blame it on your predecesor) but it doesn't happen lightly, and there had better be something impressive to show for it - and I'm sure she knows it.

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   Posted 7/13/2011 4:24 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
akgreenberg said...
I agree with Saffron. "Let's go to McDonalds"...Once in a while it can't kill ya. And I love their Stock!

AG smilewinkgrin

Curiously, it wasn't the Big M I was thinking about! lol

Brian


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   Posted 7/13/2011 2:39 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

I agree with Saffron.  "Let's go to McDonalds"...Once in a while it can't kill ya.  And I love their Stock!

 

AG    smilewinkgrin


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   Posted 7/13/2011 6:36 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sadly, Michel is right - in most cirumstances ...

... happily there are some notable exceptions.

Brian


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   Posted 7/13/2011 6:25 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
David H. Bailey said...
Whatever happened to a company surviving because it produced excellent products rather than existing because it can fool a bunch of investors into buying shares?


It went under for lack of capital funds.

You need money to make a product. You need investors to make money. You need money to make money. Money, money, money.

Even companies that make "excellent products" require money to make those excellent products.

Investors don't look at the quality of a product (and if you're buying stock because you "like the product"... don't. That's not a good investment habit), they look at the quality of a stock.


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   Posted 7/13/2011 5:28 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
David H. Bailey said...
Interesting change in business model from the old days when a company would be sure to notify its customers of any change before worrying about investors.

Ah the old days. You could leave your door open and never get burgled. The kids could play safely on the streets, and you could get your dinner, the cinema and your bus fare home all for a shilling.

Stockholders have been the main concern of companies ever since stock was first traded in the 17th century. Nothing has changed.


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   Posted 7/13/2011 4:43 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Interesting change in business model from the old days when a company would be sure to notify its customers of any change before worrying about investors. It follows the horrible business model that has shareholders being much more important than product or customer satisfaction. Whatever happened to a company surviving because it produced excellent products rather than existing because it can fool a bunch of investors into buying shares?
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   Posted 7/10/2011 1:18 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
OK, thanks. I don't know when the press release appeared, but I didn't see the stock take a hit in the past week.


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   Posted 7/9/2011 10:57 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
No worries Motet. When you're a public company and shareholders expect profit boosts and your normal times, it's good behavior to inform them that there will be a change.


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   Posted 7/9/2011 2:00 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Press release said...
We expect that the delay of Finale will negatively impact our second quarter and annual revenue for fiscal 2011, when compared to fiscal 2010


Since this is a fate worse than death to a CEO, I suspect the delay was not expected, and so I find it fairly worrisome. Fingers crossed, though.


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   Posted 7/8/2011 4:00 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Outstanding! Thanks.

By the way I don't use Pro Tools as much as I use Finale! I am an "Avid" Finale supporter! lol

Definintion of avid: keenly, enthusiastically, passionately, eagerly, devotedly, ardently, fervently...ya know what I mean!

Have a great weekend!

Art G. smilewinkgrin


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   Posted 7/8/2011 2:28 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi Art,

I can certainly see that as valuable option, I'll add it as a feature request.


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   Posted 7/8/2011 2:02 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi Justin,

I often use Pro Tools for editing my vocal parts. I noticed something interesting when I up graded to Pro Tools 9. It takes control of my laptops power options and changes it from the balanced mode (for most work) to high performance mode. When I close Pro Tools, it switches back to balanced. I do see a performance boose when this happens. Do you think we can add this as an option for future Finale releases? It might end latency issues.

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   Posted 7/8/2011 1:50 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
From what I've read and seen in some company videos, the product cycle development at Wolfram Research, particularly for their Mathematica program is always two versions ahead! No predetermined deadlines are set by date, but by complete determination of program design goals specific to each version, as well as thorough quality assurance -- all of which seems to me to almost ensure bug-free performance and reliability when released, as well as to ensure that only significant upgrades are released, and thus, in my not so humble opinion, should be a model for all software developers to follow.


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   Posted 7/8/2011 11:57 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The press release is aimed at shareholders, not users. Shareholders don't care about anything other than expected profits, or excuses for lack thereof.


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