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jzucker
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| Posted 8/10/2011 1:13 PM (GMT -5) |   | | Looks like Sibelius supports DTP features with Hierarchical styles within scores. For a book author (such as myself) this potentially eliminates the need for using Adobe Indesign for layout. That's huge for me. Will Finale support anything similar? If not, looks like it's a done deal. | | Back to Top | |
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jzucker
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| Posted 8/10/2011 7:45 AM (GMT -5) | | | i have a similar issue. Just got an update notice for Sibelius 7. I want to upgrade to a 64 bit version of either but not both. | | Back to Top | |
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Colinoid
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| Posted 8/9/2011 6:39 AM (GMT -5) | | Any update on Finale 2012 yet? A more specific date perhaps? Even a month? I'm about to finally upgrade from 2009, and I'm assuming that now it's worth waiting for 2012 before I do so.
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Michael Ducharme
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| Posted 7/31/2011 11:31 PM (GMT -5) | | I have not found a problem with CC11. It works fine, as does CC7 (although I really do not like or suggest the use of CC7 - any library that is well programmed will not force you to use CC7 for dynamics). Perhaps you have not set your Human Playback to use CC11 instead of CC1 for those samples? Note that making rules based on library or patch name will not work here, due to a bug with Kontakt support.
CC1 is a bigger problem. The CC1 setting in HP is designed for Garritan libraries, where key velocity is used for attack. It sends key velocity values equal to the attack of the notes. Many libraries that use CC1 as a dynamic controller also use key velocity as a secondary dynamic controller. This results in somewhat random dynamic differences from note to note, which can sound pretty awful. There should be two CC1 options, one for CC1 with key velocity for Garritan instruments, and one with CC1 with key velocity treated as a secondary dynamic controller as it is in most libraries. | | Back to Top | |
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kadf1999
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| Posted 7/29/2011 11:17 PM (GMT -5) | | | |
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wish910
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| Posted 7/18/2011 11:17 PM (GMT -5) | | Hello, Justin:
We hope:
1.A real 64-bit Version of Finale 2012 to support more RAM in a 64-bit OS.
(There have been 64-bit version Logic, GPO, Cubase, Nuendo and so on for sereral years.)
2.Makemusic can solve the problem of MIDI CC#11. In Finale 2011, users can't change dynamics when using MIDI CC#11 with East West Libraries so that users think the crescendo don't work at all when using EW. Therefore, we hope we can draw dynamic hairpins as we like and hear them work better in Finale 2012. The problemn has existed for many years since Finale 2007.
Thank you a lot.
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Fritz Meissner
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| Posted 7/17/2011 2:45 PM (GMT -5) | | I think they have just realised something that's been stated on the forum for several years now. Any company that is not getting new customers will carry on pretty much as before for a few years relying on their established users for subscription income; the downward trend starts slowly, but it will gradually steepen until they reach a point where it becomes precipitous, by which time it is usually too late to do anything about the situation. The early warning sign is what a number of people have been saying on the forum, that when they look at new users (students, for instance), Sibelius is overwhelmingly the favourite. Given that information, they must know that they are on the road to crisis.
Fritz
PrintMusic 2004, 2006, 2007 and 2010 Windows 7 Home Premium, Pentium i5 750 quad core + 4 GB; Cakewalk UA-101
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Mike Rosen
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| Posted 7/17/2011 2:12 PM (GMT -5) | | Fritz Meissner said...
"For the past three years van Lith has provided interim CEO leadership to companies in start-up, high growth and crisis phases, in addition to running her own internet-marketing services company."
Fritz
Since Finale is neither a start-up, nor a high-growth company, this is the phrase that bothers me. Do they know something that we don't?
Mike Rosen
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Print Music 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010; Finale 2010b, 2011b
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Fritz Meissner
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| Posted 7/17/2011 10:46 AM (GMT -5) | | The more I think about this announcement, the more I think there may be something genuinely significant happening. Here is an excerpt from the sharenolders' meeting in early March :
"Charlie Pine: Speaking of the development efforts, are you going to be able to get your products out on time this year?
Jeff Koch: That is the plan. I mean that with...
Charlie Pine: Well, that was the plan last year also.
Jeff Koch: Yes. And that is why I said, I mean that with an underline, that’s the plan, period."
Jeff Koch being the then interim CEO of MakeMusic.
Now we have a new CEO (Karen van Lith) turning around, and on top of that telling the shareholders that they will have to take a hit on revenue.  A CEO can get away with that once in their career (at the beginning when you can blame it on your predecesor) but it doesn't happen lightly, and there had better be something impressive to show for it - and I'm sure she knows it.
Fritz
PrintMusic 2004, 2006, 2007 and 2010 Windows 7 Home Premium, Pentium i5 750 quad core + 4 GB; Cakewalk UA-101
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Michel R. E.
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| Posted 7/13/2011 6:25 AM (GMT -5) | | David H. Bailey said...
Whatever happened to a company surviving because it produced excellent products rather than existing because it can fool a bunch of investors into buying shares?
It went under for lack of capital funds.
You need money to make a product. You need investors to make money. You need money to make money. Money, money, money.
Even companies that make "excellent products" require money to make those excellent products.
Investors don't look at the quality of a product (and if you're buying stock because you "like the product"... don't. That's not a good investment habit), they look at the quality of a stock.
Michel R. Edward
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David H. Bailey
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| Posted 7/13/2011 4:43 AM (GMT -5) | | | Interesting change in business model from the old days when a company would be sure to notify its customers of any change before worrying about investors. It follows the horrible business model that has shareholders being much more important than product or customer satisfaction. Whatever happened to a company surviving because it produced excellent products rather than existing because it can fool a bunch of investors into buying shares? | | Back to Top | |
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Benjamin Tubb
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| Posted 7/8/2011 1:50 PM (GMT -5) | | From what I've read and seen in some company videos, the product cycle development at Wolfram Research, particularly for their Mathematica program is always two versions ahead! No predetermined deadlines are set by date, but by complete determination of program design goals specific to each version, as well as thorough quality assurance -- all of which seems to me to almost ensure bug-free performance and reliability when released, as well as to ensure that only significant upgrades are released, and thus, in my not so humble opinion, should be a model for all software developers to follow.
Benjamin Robert Tubb, Finale Engraver
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Flint
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| Posted 7/8/2011 11:57 AM (GMT -5) | | The press release is aimed at shareholders, not users. Shareholders don't care about anything other than expected profits, or excuses for lack thereof.
woodwind specialist and doubler - Finale 2011b using Speedy Entry - no capslock, GPO 2nd ed. Full version, Garritan Jazz & Big Band, Garritan Concert and Marching Band, Windows 7 64-bit SP1, 4GB RAM, Soundblaster Audigy II zs
If the composer says in effect to the performer: "I do not care whether you perform my music or not," we cannot argue the matter. But if he indicates: "I want you to perform and respond to this music," then his fundamental duty is to write his music so that it is accessible to interpretation. When the performer cannot approach the composer's meaning because of capriciously obscure notation, he may in effect say to the composer: "Why should I bother to puzzle out your music?" - Gardner Read | | Back to Top | |
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