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mm
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| Posted 6/30/2012 11:48 AM (GMT -5) |   | Depending on the filter settings I can copy everything just fine except now all of a sudden smart shape custom lines (only) don't seem to copy. I can clear them as a selected item, but not copy. Anyone come across this? Never had this problem before (something changed in 2012b?) .
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Zuill
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| Posted 6/30/2012 11:55 AM (GMT -5) | | I can confirm this. This is a major problem. I wonder if MM is aware of this.
Zuill
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Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed)
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Mike Rosen
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| Posted 6/30/2012 12:39 PM (GMT -5) | | | |
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Zuill
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| Posted 6/30/2012 2:27 PM (GMT -5) | | This is only the tip of the iceberg. Try connecting 2 notes with a gliss. I click-pasted to another measure. The first was fine, the second (and then on) was a straight line).????????
Zuill
P.S.: Even if you manually change the gliss. shape (ctrl-click the icon) it still copies straight line.
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
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Zuill
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| Posted 6/30/2012 2:41 PM (GMT -5) | | I tried paste multiple on the Gliss copy, and only the first gliss is correct. The rest are lines. I'll try with other Not-So-Smart Shapes.
Zuill
P.S.: The Tab Slide shape also has the Gliss buginess. Change it to a Gliss and then copy. The second copy and on is a line.
P.P.S.: Try copying the first measure and see if you get what I get.
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed)
Favorite Forum quote: "Please, everybody, IGNORE THE TROLL!" Post Edited (Zuill) : 6/30/2012 2:15:02 PM (GMT-5) File Attachment : Smart Shape Bug Test.mus 41KB (application/octet-stream) This file has been downloaded 305 time(s). | | Back to Top | |
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Zuill
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| Posted 6/30/2012 3:23 PM (GMT -5) | | There seems to be a limit of one copy per document. After the first copy in a document, it defaulted to the line for the rest. If I open a new file, it allows 1 gliss copy, then the line. Each new document allows just the one.
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed)
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Zuill
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| Posted 6/30/2012 4:12 PM (GMT -5) | | It would be good for someone without the b upgrade to see if this behaved properly in 2012a. Also, checking with other platforms (XP, Vista, Mac) would be a good thing to do.
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed)
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mm
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| Posted 6/30/2012 5:33 PM (GMT -5) | | it definitely worked in 2012a, I was using this all the time, never a problem
Finale 3.7 - 2012b, GPO4, Cubase, ProTools, Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO Xi3650 laptop, 18.4'' display, 4GB RAM, Vista HP (32-bit), M-Audio Keystation 49 + Mini 32, Korg NANOkey | | Back to Top | |
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Zuill
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| Posted 7/1/2012 2:10 AM (GMT -5) | | I sent in a report to MakeMusic. I hope they can fix the b update file so we can re-apply it with the fix. This is a MAJOR bug.
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed)
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mm
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| Posted 7/1/2012 6:14 AM (GMT -5) | | I agree, also sent in an official report for back-up.
This is really a major problem, seriously impeding workflow if one can no longer copy items as selected in the filter,
in particular smart shapes. The whole copying feature seems to be unpredictable now,
and we should not have to wait for the next update/-grade,
there should be devised some sort of hot-fix!
Finale 3.7 - 2012b, GPO4, Cubase, ProTools, Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO Xi3650 laptop, 18.4'' display, 4GB RAM, Vista HP (32-bit), M-Audio Keystation 49 + Mini 32, Korg NANOkey | | Back to Top | |
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Eagle1
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| Posted 7/1/2012 6:26 PM (GMT -5) | | Glad you sent in a report, MM. PrintMusic has changed too, can't get the toolbars to stand on each side of the screen as they used to, vertical. I managed to drag one to the bottom, rest are piled on top. Probably all the programs have been changed, but why? I'm an older person, still like my 2004 better than newer versions, don't like change.
BTW, Everyone, I'm now retired from the Union, just not taking time to edit Profile Statement right now. Have a good weekend.
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Mike Rosen
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| Posted 7/1/2012 6:42 PM (GMT -5) | | | |
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Zuill
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| Posted 7/2/2012 8:51 AM (GMT -5) | | Do custom lines copy on Mac?
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed)
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Zuill
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| Posted 7/2/2012 10:16 AM (GMT -5) | | My hope is that they can fix it and post a fixed 2012b release file. If not, they will have a lot of angry and frustrated users.
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed)
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Gareth Green
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| Posted 7/2/2012 11:05 AM (GMT -5) | | Is anyone aware of MM having acknowledged this, at all? I was in mid-project last week, and didn't want to switch over until I'd cleared the existing work, but now with this bug, taken together with Michel's concerns about other Windows setting being messed up, 2012b is looking like a non-starter for me ...
Gareth J. Green
Fin2012a, running under Vista 64-bit
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Zuill
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| Posted 7/2/2012 12:49 PM (GMT -5) | | There have been some fixes in 2012b that are good. However, this is a MAJOR step backwards.
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed)
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JustinP
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| Posted 7/2/2012 1:35 PM (GMT -5) | | | |
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Zuill
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| Posted 7/2/2012 1:37 PM (GMT -5) | | Thank you. We were all figuring this would be fixed soon, as it is a vital feature.
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed)
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Zuill
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| Posted 7/2/2012 8:47 PM (GMT -5) | | Just to further report strange behavior (I know MM says this will be fixed soon):
I applied the gliss, then copied it, and as it has been doing it, after one good copy, what appears is now a line. I then went into the Custom Line Tool (ctrl-click the ?), and created a line based on a character, and lo and behold, this new line replaced the straight lines. Now, that is really BUGGY behavior. It almost seems that 2012b is a beta version.
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed)
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Zuill
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| Posted 7/3/2012 3:50 PM (GMT -5) | | Something else to try: open the default file and then open a document without libraries. Now enter a Custom Line in the Default Document at measure one (it is measure attached, so notes needed). Now tile the windows horizontally and drag the measure from the first document to then second. The shape copies--but only once.
But there's more. The only problem is that the behavior is so erratic I can't describe the steps. And when it does manifest itself suddenly, it might be that all of a sudden, where I had tried to copy a custom line before, they will all appear at once, as if Finale knew they were there, but no shapes or handles were appearing on the screen, and then suddenly appear.
This is just a small part of what I have been experimenting with, but it is too unpredictable to share. I hope that if anyone else can report specific behavior, MM can fix it.
I almost feel like I am back Beta testing.
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed)
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Mike Rosen
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