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   Posted 12/6/2013 9:41 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm doing a self-teaching exercise that involves Dvorak's Largo (2nd movement) from the New World Symphony. Simply put, I am transcribing the score in Finale, and I would like it to be accurate. However, I'm running into an issue with the horns and trumpets, which are specified to be in E, which I can't find in GPO4, nor in GIFF.

I had a look through the various transposing sections in the manual, but it's strangely silent on items like E horns and trumpets.

Is there a way to create these in a score?


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   Posted 12/6/2013 11:21 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You can set the transposition to anything you like in the ScoreManager. (There is even a button for this.)


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   Posted 12/6/2013 11:37 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi Ron, I see that particular box, but E isn't a choice in the pick list for either horns or trumpets. Eb (two ways), yes, but not E. I guess I could select Eb and knock the part down a half step, but I'd rather do it right the first time if I could.

I also see the custom selection, but here's where my education (lack of) stops me. What would be the correct instruction (up, down, how much, add flats or sharps, etc) to write in the custom field so that my horns and trumpets are correct (on the off-chance someone ever wants to use the score) There must be a way to make it happen, but it eludes me at the moment.


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   Posted 12/7/2013 3:47 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Here the way I use to manage it:
First open the Score Manager -> Instrument List
Transposition = Other.

Then a dialog will be shown, these values have to be filled in:

horn in E
key signature: other
interval: 5
key alter: -4

horn in Eb
key signature: other
interval: 5
key alter: 3

horn in D
key signature: other
interval: 6
key alter: -2

horn in A
key signature: other
interval: 2
key alter: -3

horn in G
key signature: other
interval: 3
key alter: -1

horn in C basso
key signature: up octave
interval: 7
key alter: 0

horn in C alto
no change

trumpet in E
key signature: other
interval: -2
key alter: -4

trumpet in Eb
key signature: other
interval: -2
key alter: 3

trumpet in F
key signature: other
interval: -3
key alter: 1

HTH
LO


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Post Edited (LO) : 12/7/2013 6:27:35 AM (GMT-6)

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   Posted 12/7/2013 11:33 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

In addition to what Lothar posts, this subject of custom transpositions has come up many times in the past.  Both I and Motet have also published on this forum our transposition charts.  You will find the latest revision of my chart attached.  I will let Motet attach his, if he wishes.

A few additional notes:

I have tried to make my chart as complete and comprehensive as possible, including transpositions to keys that probably will never be needed.  Do not be confused by the sample scale images on the chart.  The chart explains what they are.  Some of the scale images have non-standard key signatures, e.g. 12 flats, which can be simplified in practice, but I showed them as such for consistency.  I stayed in the treble clef for all scale images, so note that some scale images have an 8 either above or below the clef as required.  Some of the images overflow the boundary a little.  I have not taken the time to fix that yet.  The instrument use portion of the table is not meant to be all inclusive.  If the chart is too small on 8.5 x 11 pages, open the PDF and zoom in for detail.


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   Posted 12/7/2013 2:29 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Gentlemen, thank you both very much! I have saved both of your files, and will doubtless refer to them often!

K


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   Posted 12/7/2013 2:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Forum user Charles made a chart with every imaginable transposition in it. Maybe it's on Mike Rosen's Finale Tips page?


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   Posted 12/7/2013 4:19 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
No, I have not yet put it on Mike's tips page, but I did repost it earlier in this thread.


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   Posted 12/7/2013 6:10 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I should pay attention.


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