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Keith B
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   Posted 1/5/2015 11:51 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hello Charles! How nice to see you again! A very happy new year to you - and to you all.
In fact you probably remember you taught me how to modify the list for my 2010 version where it was still "readable" and you also sent me the file to change my 2012 version - which I did. I had to reinstall after a major crash so that's when I lost all your good work. Luckily I didn't lose any of the thousands of finale files...
Please do send me the file again: [email protected]
Although I don't exchange many finale files with other people and those I do send files to are mostly on version 2010, by sending them as exported MusicXML files they pulled in the Eb tuba by some magic.
If you have the time I'd like to know how you made this file this time around so as I can get into it and translate all the instruments - or add the French names for all the instruments. Obviously it's no trouble for me to have them all in English but I do have to translate them when arranging for a French orchestra.
All the very best
Keith
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   Posted 1/5/2015 11:13 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Subsequent to my working with Keith back in mid 2012 on this subject, I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge the work of Jolora in a similar project to add instruments to the database.


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What would we do without MakeMusic "improvements" that, while they might make it easier for a first time user to set up a score, make it exceeding difficult for an experienced user to make what used to be matter-of-course modifications to suit their needs? First they broke percussion mapping, then they broke instrument assignments, then they broke the tool palettes (which they've only partially fixed). I dread to think what they will decide to "improve" next.


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   Posted 1/5/2015 10:25 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Hello again Keith,

Yes that was me back in mid 2012.  I sent you a modified Finale.instruments database file with the changes we discussed for your purposes.  I will need to know the current version of Finale you are using, hopefully F2014d, and then I can resend you the file via your email, which I still have.

Charles

PS:  To anyone contemplating such a move, while it is doable, it is not recommended, particularly if you ever send your Finale documents to any other place for perusal, or want students, for example, to be able to use the added instrument in their work, since the modified database will not be on any other computer, unless you put it there.  If this is for your own purposes, that is fine.  Also, if Finale is ever updated, the modified database will not be forwarded into the update.  It is for these reasons that I do not post such work on this public forum, but only via email.


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   Posted 1/5/2015 9:10 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
There has been some discussion here on the forum regarding this.

As I remember, the introduction of the Score Manager in Finale 2012 required this file to be rewritten in a format that is not editable by most or all users. The consensus was pretty much that we're out of luck.

Maybe someone has more up to date info. In the meantime, you might consider making one or more templates that include those specialized transpositions and staff names. That way you don't have to continue "reinventing the wheel".

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   Posted 1/5/2015 6:45 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hello - and a Happy New Year to everyone.

Some years back I got help from someone on the forum about adding instruments to the instrument list. He even went so far as to send me an instrument list that I fed into my version of Finale to give me the transposing Eb tuba and - I think - several other instruments I needed at the time.

I thus learned how to add instruments but the years have passed - going on 75 now... several changes of computer, several upgrades of Finale and at least one pretty horrific hard disk crash. All that knowledge is lost and a search of the forum database didn't cough it up either.

I know that a lot of tuba players (Bb and Eb) read in concert pitch but not many in concert bands in France...

It's easy to fix an transposing Eb tuba just by pulling in an Eb horn (for instance) - changing the name and pushing it into the bass clef. However, it was nice, and satisfying, to be able to build the missing instrument into the list and just pull it in every time I needed it. (Especially for one of the concert bands I do arrangements for: they have an Eb tuba as you'd probably guessed.) It's also useful to have the upper and lower limits of the instrument automatically indicated too.

At the time I also needed Catalan orchestra instruments so building new instruments into the list was even more important.

If anyone out there knows how to do it I'd be glad to hear from them. I'd like to relearn the technique and this time save it to a more reliable support... I'll also be trying to remember how to do it if my old addled brain will give me some clues...
Thanks in advance
Keith
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