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  		   Posted 10/21/2015 8:20 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have MIDI generated in Band-in-a-box using a 12/8 feel. But the MIDI exported from BIAB is in 4/4.

These are accompaniment tracks that won't actually be seen. But it makes sense for the other parts to be notated in 12/8 time because in 4/4, about half the material would have to use triplets, which gets messy.

I thought I could bring this across in 4/4 and then use the Change Note Durations to make every note 150% of its original value. Unfortunately there is no way to do 150%. The only options are 25%, 50%, 200%|and 400%

Any other tricks come to mind?
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  		   Posted 10/21/2015 10:35 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jari has a plugin for this.

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  		   Posted 10/21/2015 11:46 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Zuill said...
Jari has a plugin for this.

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I had skimmed that but didn't see anything that looked obvious. I have looked again. I see the "JW Meter and Rhythm", which seems to have this specific thing under the Compound Meter.

I will give that a try.
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  		   Posted 10/22/2015 12:40 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I did try the plug-in. It seems very powerful and useful in many cases. In my particular case, it didn't work. about half the measures could not be converted because it found "tuplets without triplet feel". The MIDI from BIAB is quite complicated, so I am not surprised.

All I really need is some way to multiple the duration of every single note by 1.5 and rebar the music. If I had that, then I could run everything through retranscribe and it should be good. But unfortunately the Change Durations can't do 150%

As it turned out, I set up these scores in 4/4 and started working on them that way and I think I'll just carry on in 4/4 instead of 12/8.
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If we had a sample file to play with, I'm sure we could probably find some suggestions. Right now we are only guessing as we haven't a thing at which to look.

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  		   Posted 10/22/2015 3:12 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Zuill said...
If we had a sample file to play with, I'm sure we could probably find some suggestions.
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OK, I have uploaded a F2014 file. The BIAB stuff (rhy section staves) looks funky. I will eventually replace that with more normal notation, but this gives me a bed to work with as I write the arrangement.

Don't spend too much time with it, as I think I am probably going to stick with 4/4. There is always a trade-off on these "12/8 feel" charts. The 12/8 notation is cleaner, but some musicians freak out when they see 12/8. The band that will play this chart can read everything at sight, so either way works, but 4/4 is OK.

Thanks for your interest and ideas.

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Now I get it. The rhythms here are a mess. Not worth trying to convert. If the MIDI file had been clean, then you would have had something to work with.

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  		   Posted 10/22/2015 10:06 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Zuill said...
Now I get it. The rhythms here are a mess. Not worth trying to convert. if the MIDI file had been clean, then you would have had something to work with.

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Well, I realize they don't make for good notation, but they are all legal rhythms. And if there were a tool that would adjust the duration and start point in the measure by 150% this would convert to 12/8.

I am not trying to notate those tracks. My desire was to insert those 4/4 tracks into a 12/8 score and have it sound correct. But as it appears that is beyond Finale's capabilities, I will just do the arrangement in 4/4.

Thanks for looking anyway.
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