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Roger - Mostly Music
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| Posted 3/30/2016 8:02 AM (GMT -5) |   | Help please! It's rather complicated, I'm afraid. My plea for help concerns editions I am making of Renaissance-period (16th-century) choral music. In addition to a transcription of each piece I need to supply a prefatory stave (one measure long) which shows the original pitch, note-value, key-signature and - in the case of my enquiry - time-signature of each vocal part.
For the transcription I use the Maestro music font for all music elements including the time-signature, and Calibri for all Text (title of Piece, Composer, etc.) and for the Lyrics. In the prefatory clef, however, I occasionally need to use a different font - Fughetta (which, of course, is a TrueType font) - for the original time-signature which has no exact modern equivalent.
As far as I can tell, the Document Options menu fails to help, whether under Fonts or Time Signatures.
Many years ago, using obviously an older version of Finale (similarly for Windows) and with the help of a friend, I was able to accomplish the task which is eluding me now. Alas, I didn't save the Library in the relevant fine, and I have completely forgotten how I was successful.
Can any kind person(s) please help me resolve my difficulty? | | Back to Top | |
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Peter Thomsen
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| Posted 3/30/2016 8:26 AM (GMT -5) | | Welcome to the forum!
You can get the original time signature by
- hiding the real time signature (in the Measure Attributes),
- at the beginning of the measure adding extra space for a false time signature (again, Measure Attributes),
- add a false time signature with the Expression Tool.
I hope that this is clear?
If not, ask again.
Peter
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N. Grossingink
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| Posted 3/30/2016 8:37 AM (GMT -5) | | Go to Document Options > Clefs and click the Clef Designer button. Here you can add a clef using the Fughetta font. Pick one of the clefs not in use, uncheck "Use Default Clef Font", select Fughetta font, then select the character used for the clef.
You might have to change the positioning settings as well - copy these from another one of the preset clefs, if there is an equivalent to your Fughetta clef.
N.
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–George CarlinPost Edited (N. Grossingink) : 3/30/2016 7:40:44 AM (GMT-5) | | Back to Top | |
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Roger - Mostly Music
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| Posted 3/31/2016 11:43 AM (GMT -5) | | | I'm very grateful for all replies received to date, even though - currently - the problem remains. N Grossingink: thanks, but my problem is with the prefatory TIME SIGNATURE, not with the clefs which I can change easily. Mark A's Incipit (Josquin des Pres) - which I accessed from Finale's Worksheets and Repertoire because, even though I saved and unzipped the attached Incipit (score.dat), I cannot open either or Vaughan's different Incipit sent earlier - is potentially the most helpful. It at least recognised the situation which I attempted to describe yesterday. I cannot yet see how the prefatory time-signature was inserted into the file, especially as the time-signature menu provides the same information as I already have in my document. Mr Grossingink's reply - thank you! - took me to the Document Options > Clefs > Clef Designer. If only Finale had the wit to do something similar for Time Signatures: Document Options > Time Signatures > Time Signature Designer AND/OR 'Change Font', then possibly my problem would be sorted. I'll keep persevering, meanwhile thanks, everybody, for your help! | | Back to Top | |
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RVS Lee
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| Posted 3/31/2016 1:03 PM (GMT -5) | | Roger -
Finale will only recognize a limited number of elements in a time signature: numbers for numerator and denominator and characters for common and cut time. So, if you have two time sigs (but only two) in your incipit you could use fughetta as the time sig font throughout, and use independent times sigs in the incipit to handle the historical notation. (You'll be faking it with some staves in common, and some in cut time.)
Otherwise, and/or if you want to use maestro for the modern sigs, you'll have to enter the incipit sigs as text expressions. Hide time sigs in the measure attributes for the incipit, add some extra space to the beginning of the measure (also in measure attributes) and then make sure the expressions for your historical sigs have the same positioning info (probably in relation to the staff reference line and the left barline.)
Easy enough? | | Back to Top | |
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Roger - Mostly Music
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| Posted 4/1/2016 7:02 AM (GMT -5) | | | Thanks for latest reply. I cannot work further on this until early next week, but will certainly persevere, and in particular will try to solve my problem using the latest advice gratefully received - thanks to RVS Lee! | | Back to Top | |
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Roger - Mostly Music
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| Posted 4/1/2016 11:15 AM (GMT -5) | | I HAVE SOLVED THE PROBLEM - thanks in part to some of the advice given above, which again I thank everyone for!
Typically, the problem was quite simple in the end. On my computer's Start menu I found the Character Map, scrolling down to Fughetta where I found the character which I was looking for. Yes: via Measure Attributes I (a) hid the time signature and (b) created a small amount (but enough) space to accommodate the symbol at 24 pt, and that was it. | | Back to Top | |
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