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Derrek
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   Posted 5/3/2016 6:05 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Clever humor. Kudo's Wiggy.


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Ralph L. Bowers Jr.
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   Posted 5/3/2016 5:31 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wiggy said...
N. Grossingink said...
After all, if you're invited to dinner, you praise your host's efforts.

There are plenty of posts on this forum from paying guests, questioning the host's culinary skills.



I've said what I wanted to say and was going to stay silent on this hence forth BUT, this is brilliant.

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"There are plenty of posts on this forum from paying guests, questioning the host's culinary skills."


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   Posted 5/3/2016 5:23 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
N. Grossingink said...
After all, if you're invited to dinner, you praise your host's efforts.

There are plenty of posts on this forum from paying guests, questioning the host's culinary skills.


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   Posted 5/3/2016 5:01 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I believe knowledge is power. What do we have to fear? open discussion of other programs on this forum has led to many good conversations of what can be. It has probably even led to improvements in Finale because of it.

Zuill

P.S.: I have MuseScore installed, and after reading the article, I opened MuseScore and realized that I didn't have the latest update. I have associates who have MuseScore, so I need it to help them. Every time I use it, I appreciate even more what a fine program Finale is. There are so many limitations in MuseScore. It's also obvious that many of its features are, of course, copied from Finale and another un-named program. I will say that I nudge my colleagues who use MuseScore toward Finale, as I let them know all the things they can't do in MuseScore they can in Finale.


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   Posted 5/3/2016 4:59 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As a trivial example, I often recommend Finale Notepad for beginning students. (Now that it's free again.) I used Notepad for years then MM offered me a deal on Finale which I accepted. Notepad has more capability (for my composing) than any other free program.


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   Posted 5/3/2016 4:19 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ralph L. Bowers Jr. said...
Not trying to compare with Finale or Sibelius. Hope it was not taken that way!

Just an FYI others (MuseScore) are out there that are starting to beat upon Notion and Encore and some other "lower grade" paid for notation programs.
MuseScore though is an acceptable program for those who lack funds, or a High School student or even undergraduate music student who has no or very little funds to purchase outright either Finale or Sibelius.


Considering that MakeMusic also distributes lesser programs (other than Finale), I think this post is completely out of place.


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   Posted 5/3/2016 4:01 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It might be a threat to the low-end MM products, I suppose.

When I first started, I used something called Igor Engraver because it was free. Big mistake, big waste of time.


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Ralph L. Bowers Jr.
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   Posted 5/3/2016 3:55 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Not trying to compare with Finale or Sibelius. Hope it was not taken that way!

Just an FYI others (MuseScore) are out there that are starting to beat upon Notion and Encore and some other "lower grade" paid for notation programs.
MuseScore though is an acceptable program for those who lack funds, or a High School student or even undergraduate music student who has no or very little funds to purchase outright either Finale or Sibelius.


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Sibelius 6.2, 7.1.3, 7.5.1, 8.2.0, Write Score Sound Sets, TMT Publisher Bundle Plugins, Bob Zawalich plugins, Dolet 6.6
Print Music 2004, 2010a, 2011a, 2014a
Progression, Progression 2, Progression 3, Notion 4, [Notion 5, (bought but not installed)update finally installed]
Pro Tools 9.5, Reaper
Kontakt 5
GPO4, GPO5, World Instruments
SmartScore X Pro, SmartScore X2 Pro, PhotoScore Ultimate 6 & 7 & 8.04 ( 7 has some utility----best of those available, 8 has some issues that need fixing)
M-Audio "Oxygen 25" Midi input keyboard (recent addition 2014)
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   Posted 5/3/2016 3:00 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
MuseScore is way behind Finale. I don't think there is any conceivable threat in terms of matching Finale. It would be like mentioning you had lunch at McDonald's when you're eating at a fancy French restaurant. No comparison.

Zuill


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Ralph L. Bowers Jr.
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   Posted 5/3/2016 2:30 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you for your post but ignorance, or lack of knowledge, is usually not viewed as a good thing. However, there may be certain situations where one is happier not knowing the truth.
There is an expression to describe these situations: Ignorance is bliss.


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Sibelius 6.2, 7.1.3, 7.5.1, 8.2.0, Write Score Sound Sets, TMT Publisher Bundle Plugins, Bob Zawalich plugins, Dolet 6.6
Print Music 2004, 2010a, 2011a, 2014a
Progression, Progression 2, Progression 3, Notion 4, [Notion 5, (bought but not installed)update finally installed]
Pro Tools 9.5, Reaper
Kontakt 5
GPO4, GPO5, World Instruments
SmartScore X Pro, SmartScore X2 Pro, PhotoScore Ultimate 6 & 7 & 8.04 ( 7 has some utility----best of those available, 8 has some issues that need fixing)
M-Audio "Oxygen 25" Midi input keyboard (recent addition 2014)
Systems (5) // Windows XP Pro (32bit), 2@ Windows 7 Pro, 8.1 Pro, Windows 10 64 bit, 4GB - 16GB RAM
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   Posted 5/3/2016 2:14 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I appreciate your mentioning this, but don't you think that, out of respect for Make Music's hosting of this forum, this kind of post is a little out of place and way off topic?

After all, if you're invited to dinner, you praise your host's efforts. Not the dinner you had last month at someone else's place.

Just my 2¢.

N.


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Ralph L. Bowers Jr.
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   Posted 5/3/2016 1:36 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
/musescore.org/en/user/101731/blog/2016/05/01/musescore-3.0-under-development-musescore-gets-smart


This FREE application is going to be a challenge to some other unnamed notation programs........ah, Notion, Encore, etc....


Finale 2010b, 2011b, 2012c, 2014d, 2014.5 TGTools Pro, Patterson plugins, JW plugins (current for each Finale Instalation)
Sibelius 6.2, 7.1.3, 7.5.1, 8.2.0, Write Score Sound Sets, TMT Publisher Bundle Plugins, Bob Zawalich plugins, Dolet 6.6
Print Music 2004, 2010a, 2011a, 2014a
Progression, Progression 2, Progression 3, Notion 4, [Notion 5, (bought but not installed)update finally installed]
Pro Tools 9.5, Reaper
Kontakt 5
GPO4, GPO5, World Instruments
SmartScore X Pro, SmartScore X2 Pro, PhotoScore Ultimate 6 & 7 & 8.04 ( 7 has some utility----best of those available, 8 has some issues that need fixing)
M-Audio "Oxygen 25" Midi input keyboard (recent addition 2014)
Systems (5) // Windows XP Pro (32bit), 2@ Windows 7 Pro, 8.1 Pro, Windows 10 64 bit, 4GB - 16GB RAM
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