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The Engraver
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   Posted 7/5/2016 6:16 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hello.
I would like to know if there is a default layout like that of Durand. Scores of Durand are the ones I can read better and I like the most. If this default layout does not exist, does anyone know how to set the graphic elements (staves, notes, spacing, etc.)?
Many thanks. :-)
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   Posted 7/5/2016 7:33 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Publishers don't usually divulge the details of their "house styles" and engravers usually feel bound by confidentiality issues, so I doubt that any details about Durand publications exist for public consumption.

I would suggest you try to duplicate the "spirit" of these publications yourself. Pick one page that has the kind of look you are trying to achieve and re-engrave it completely, trying to achieve the same look.

Keep the following in mind:

√ You MUST use the same page size, page margins and staff size (in millimeters). Just measure these yourself on the physical product.
√ Experiment with line weights and try to get the same widths - staff lines, stems, ledger lines, barlines (thin and thick), repeat ending brackets.
√ Note the relative size and style of all text, especially tempo text and rehearsal marks.
√ Slurs and ties will have a particular contour and thickness and may have a unique placement relative to the noteheads.
√ Crescendo and decrescendo wedges will have a particular thickness and the open end will probably a bit smaller than the Finale default.
√ Finale's default music spacing is not really ideal. The Finale libraries installed with the software include a "Medium Spacing" library that would probably be better.

This might be a good starting point. I would also suggest, if you haven't already, that you join the "notat.io" music engraving group. Post your question about Durand there and you're likely to get many good suggestions. There is a high level of knowledge on that group. Go here:

notat.io/

Good luck!

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   Posted 7/5/2016 7:39 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Many thanks!! :-)
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   Posted 7/5/2016 7:41 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Really? Durand scores are fairly idiosyncratic, even by the standards of French engraving, which are often significantly different from elsewhere.

The best way to get a working document with defaults for a particular style is to copy an existing score. Finale can create French beaming, and it will even let you put barlines through staves in vocal scores. French music often uses different order for note clusters, which may take more work. The misprints, you can add by hand. :p


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   Posted 7/5/2016 8:17 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wiggy said...
Really? Durand scores are fairly idiosyncratic, even by the standards of French engraving, which are often significantly different from elsewhere.


You're absolutely right! If you're talking about the Durand style of the early 20th century or thereabouts, it was indeed idiosyncratic. I was basing my comments on more recent Durand engraving, which bears no resemblance to those older engravings and looks somewhat like the Finale default. I try to study contemporary engraving as much as possible, but am no expert at all on the subject. It would be nice to hear from a few members who have some insight into the question.

N.


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   Posted 7/5/2016 8:25 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm talking about scores I purchased in '80 and '90. Now Durand it's no more existing. I don't konw what to say.....I love the Durand layout. :-)
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   Posted 7/7/2016 5:59 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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   Posted 7/7/2016 6:56 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
alberthandsome said...
Durand Railroad Days is just two weeks away!


Just let me fill 'er up and I'm on my way!

N.


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1970—New York, New York: Times music critic Harold Schoenberg says, “Trombone players are like ministers—quiet, dull, very moral. Nobody ever heard of a rebellious trombone player.”


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