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   Posted 1/28/2004 4:55 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
ive got finale 2004, and when i save special as.. and select cd quality and save out a wav file, i want to convert it to mp3

ive been trying to find some good wav to mp3 encoders, but all the ones i have tried using leave me with lots of white noise, even at cd quality...

just curious if anyone here can recomend a good one to use

thanks

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   Posted 1/28/2004 5:13 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I use Pyro, a standalone product from Cakewalk. It is simple to use and does the job. However, I am very unhappy with Cakewalk and told them last time they told me that my sound drivers were corrupt and that I needed to reinstall Cakewalk in order to get it to work (these are the only "solutions" their technical support know no matter what the problem) that if they told me to do that again I would stop using their product--and I did. The fact that F2004 has export as .wav makes all the nonsense I used to go through with Cakewalk irrelevant anyhow.


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   Posted 1/28/2004 5:37 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
lol, yah ive recently made the disicion never to use an ATI product again by choice, just cuz of there customer service

Im acauly looking for one with a downloadedable demo though, at least a one shot deal, i really need to hear the quality before i buy one
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   Posted 1/28/2004 6:05 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I've been using MP3-Pro, which as far as I know is available only as a plug-in to Nero burning software.  It has two advantages for me:  One, it produces an MP3 file that is only about 2/3 the size of a normal one, and with no obvious degradation of the sound.  And two, if file size is critical and sound quality is less so, it gives you the ability to adjust parameters all the way down to 24kBit, 32,000Hz, Mono, to produce even smaller MP3 files.
 
For example, a recent chart was 33,718kb Wav.  The high quality MP3 is 1,913kb.


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   Posted 1/28/2004 6:28 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
cool nero is defitnly a program i like alot, ill look more into this one, im acauly going for quality over file size, however a nive balance between the two would be ideal


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   Posted 1/28/2004 6:35 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Cool Edit Pro 2.0 (not free, but not expansive).
very good quality garanted!

grtz


 
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   Posted 1/28/2004 10:03 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If you have Finale 2004, why not save direct as MP3?
 
Save Special
 
Save as audio file
 
click the radio button "compressed wav file"
 
Click "advanced" and set your desired  compression (MEG layer 3)
 
...and don't forget to change the ending of the filename to mp3...
 
Works a treat - 22 1/2 minutes of Rhapsody in Blue - wav = 250 odd MB or mp3 = 9 MB
 
CB


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   Posted 1/28/2004 10:42 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You're kidding? This I've got to try out. Why would MakeMusic keep it a secret that you can make .MP3 files directly from Finale? There's gotta be a catch, right?


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   Posted 1/28/2004 10:57 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey Ron…. Cakewalk and support…isn’t that one of those oxymoron things? LOL.


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   Posted 1/28/2004 11:21 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Musicmatch is a great program for making cds, converting wav to mp3 and mp3 to wav, etc.tongue


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   Posted 1/28/2004 11:29 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ron B. said...
You're kidding? This I've got to try out. Why would MakeMusic keep it a secret that you can make .MP3 files directly from Finale? There's gotta be a catch, right?
Because not everyone has an audio codec on their machine to create MP3 files. MakeMusic would have to include a codec if they wanted to trumpet this as a feature. Codecs are very, very expensive to licence and MM would have to pass the costs on to us.
 
Download iTunes. It's free. You can load your wav into it and covert it to either AAC or MP3. Download it at www.apple.com/itunes.


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   Posted 1/28/2004 12:24 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Craig William Dayton said...
Hey Ron…. Cakewalk and support…isn’t that one of those oxymoron things? LOL.
There does seem to be an ox and a moron involved somewhere. ;-)


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   Posted 1/28/2004 12:38 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
kignature said...
Ron B. said...
You're kidding? This I've got to try out. Why would MakeMusic keep it a secret that you can make .MP3 files directly from Finale? There's gotta be a catch, right?
Because not everyone has an audio codec on their machine to create MP3 files. MakeMusic would have to include a codec if they wanted to trumpet this as a feature. Codecs are very, very expensive to licence and MM would have to pass the costs on to us.
 
Download iTunes. It's free. You can load your wav into it and covert it to either AAC or MP3. Download it at www.apple.com/itunes.
Audio codec? 'scuse the ignorance, I don't think I knowingly have one of those, but I do know that there is no unlicensed software on my PC, so one of my standard and legit programs must have one - is this likely? Could it be part of the windows media player? 
 
Whatever, I have had no problem with the Finale MPEG layer 3 format, although I confess I haven't played the MP3 results away from my PC... and the sound through media player does sound a tad richer than even through finale's playback.
 
Good luck Ron, and enjoy.
 
And for those who'd care to test my humble effort - I am attaching about 55 seconds worth of "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik" as converted to MP3 by Finale. Oh!.... Sorry, the upload manager just refused to accept an MPEG format "Not allowed"
 
Ah well
 
CB


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   Posted 1/28/2004 4:32 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have been using Acoustica Mp3 to Wave Coverter (it also does wave to mp3, and wave to wma) for a couple of years now.  You just right click on a file and choose your conversion.  It costs $20.00 and is well worth it.  I use it to load works to the internet and to make my own cds.
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   Posted 1/28/2004 5:03 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Acoustica was acualy one of the ones ive tried, and i got a very annoying hiss in the background, maybe the demo doesnt work as wel as the full veriosn, or maybe i was missing some settings

I ended up having one incuded with my Nero package, i just forgot about it, but it worked awsome, its the one that comes with nero ultra edition, just called Nero wave editor

im gonna try to export staight out of finale though thanks for the tip

chrisbris - why not upload it to the showcase? i awalys love to hear what poeples works sound like :D

i was always more of a hobbiest composer myself, and have been workin on this game as art lead, but i decided to try and write some music for it, and the guys upstairs liked it so they want me to make all the songs now for the game lol, no clue if i can, i seem to get inspiration in spirts when it comes to music, but maybe having deadlines will help

you can listen to one of the songs at http://www.anotherhell.com if you care too :D
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   Posted 1/29/2004 10:25 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
AnotherHell said...
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chrisbris - why not upload it to the showcase? i awalys love to hear what poeples works sound like :D

I'd love to!....
 
Come on MakeMusic... I raring to play with the 2004 version of showcase... the current version doesn't like F2004 yet
 
;-)


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   Posted 2/14/2004 2:00 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I usually find mp3 files I've made not as good as wav files. But I just tried doing one of each from the same Finale file, directly out of Finale. This was my first comparison of the two. They sound identical and equally clear. The wav=6.5 MB, the mp3=277K. I am glad to know Finale does this so well. I often have to send files and knowing I can compress the file so small is a great thing. I have XP. Is the mp3 capability a Windows feature? I also have Powertracks. Could that be in residence from that? In any event, I'm very pleased with the result. And a bit surprised.

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   Posted 2/14/2004 8:32 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Today I am still using 98SE. I've tried Finale's MP3 files--and am very pleased. They are smaller than ones I've made through other products and sound better. My hearing is not what it once was (what is?), but, frankly, I can't tell the difference between a .wav and an .mp3 made by Finale.

Codecs aside (whatever they are), I don't understand why MakeMusic doesn't document how to make .mp3? Thanks for the Forum, though, or I'd have never learned how to use this product.


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   Posted 2/14/2004 10:22 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well I use my Creative Player to convert to .mp3 or .wav. It is included with any Creative audio card since SB Live!
As for codecs, they are very important since without them you wouldn't be able to convert to anything. The codec is the language trough which a .WAV file is read and transformed into data type, which is why the mp3 files are so small, since they don't depend that much on the length of the music but on how clearly it reads it or not. MP3 is not a windows feature. Windows doesen't have a license for that, that's why Windows Media Player compresses in it's own format .WMA (windows media audio). But if you have installes a creative card and software, Winamp, Nero, or some audio editing software, you have the codec installed.

So Make Music can't say that Finale can convert files to MP3 since it does not include the codec. Even though most likely there is no computer in the world without mp3 codec, they don't want to pay for licensing. An just in case a person doesen't have the codec, he won't be calling tech support to say that the program doesen't work.


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   Posted 2/14/2004 3:20 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
codec = COmpression + DECompresssion


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