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Charles Lawrence
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Posted 2/23/2013 11:26 AM (GMT -5)

Jeanne R said...
In my version at least, you have to make the mm rests with the dialog box rather than just selecting measures and choosing Create from the menu.

Your version is 2008a. I don't remember the details for that far back a version. In my version 2012c.r13, you can select a range of measures using either the Selection Tool or the Measure Tool, and right click to pop up a context menu where you can choose "Multimeasure Rests -> Create". This works in either Page or Scroll view. In Page view only, there is a similar mechanism in the "Edit -> Multimeasure Rests" menu. This menu option is not available in Scroll view. I'm not sure what dialog box you are referring to. In 2012, the only dialog box for MMRs is the "Edit -> Multimeasure Rests -> Edit" dialog box, where you can modify, but not create MMRs. This is also available in the right click context menu. This dialog box is unavailable in Scroll view.

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paulbrainard
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Posted 2/25/2013 3:26 PM (GMT -5)

Thanks all - not sure if maybe there are some different bugs in our different versions, or something that got stuck in these files as I worked on them is preventing them from behaving correctly. . . clearly there are some things I should be able to do but cannot! Unfortunately I haven't gotten any response from tech support. But the additional part solution seems pretty workable.

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paulbrainard
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Posted 2/27/2013 12:24 PM (GMT -5)

Finally got a response from tech support - they say that the original behavior I described is actually how the program works - in other words, you cannot create a MMR if there is anything in any staff in the score in that region, hidden or not. Of course at this point, we have determined that this is not really the case, bbu seems to become the case at some point in working on the file.

Attached is a simple, fresh file with 3 staves, one hidden. As you can see, I WAS able to create MMR's in the page view across regions where the hidden staff contains music. However, I was only able to do this either while in Page View by highlighting the measures & right-clicking, or else in either page or scroll view by using Create MMR's off the Edit menu. Highlighting the region while in scroll view would not create the MMRs in page view. And as I have stated, I have many files where I cannot do it in any view or method.

If I come up with a full day to experiment, maybe I can figure out what decides whether I am able to create them or not - maybe notes don't prevent it but chords do. Maybe the chords wouldn't if they were attached to notes. Maybe copying & pasting changes some measure attributes that I don't realize.

So there you have it - it kind of works in certain circumstances, even though it isn't actually supposed to. Clear?

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Post Edited (paulbrainard) : 2/27/2013 11:14:30 AM (GMT-6)

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Zuill
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Posted 2/27/2013 12:35 PM (GMT -5)

Definitely adding chords breaks MM rests. That seems to be a certain element.

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paulbrainard
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Posted 2/27/2013 1:21 PM (GMT -5)

Yes. . . I guess that's really the nub of it for me - my hidden staves are usually chord charts, that's about all that's in them!

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