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RobCS
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   Posted 9/21/2008 7:20 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm using PrintMusic and wondered if there's a symbol for vibrato (other than "vib.", or something like that.)

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   Posted 9/21/2008 7:30 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Would the trill or tremolo markings do?


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   Posted 9/21/2008 8:08 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I guess I should have said "tremolo". My understanding was that a trill denoted a change in pitch, a half or whole step. I'm referring to the wavering sound that a sax player uses when there's a slight periodic change in volume, but not in pitch.

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   Posted 9/21/2008 8:30 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
RobCS said...
I guess I should have said "tremolo". My understanding was that a trill denoted a change in pitch, a half or whole step. I'm referring to the wavering sound that a sax player uses when there's a slight periodic change in volume, but not in pitch.


Mike's comment is right on, IMO. I would use a trill or roll marking that is perfectly horizontal (sans the "tr" of course). Maybe some wind or brass players might jump in with other suggestions. I would also add a note in the score indicating that you mean vibrato, not a trill or tremolo.


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   Posted 9/21/2008 9:56 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi, I'm a sax player, and I don't know what you are referring to. Vib and no vib I do understand.
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   Posted 9/21/2008 10:35 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
RobCS,
Have you seen a marking indicating vib in other scores?


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   Posted 9/22/2008 3:28 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Vib and no vib have been standards for eons.


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   Posted 9/22/2008 5:43 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi

I'm a sax player too....

Sometimes yes, in score you would see no vibrato.

On the other hand you don't see often with vibrato.

If you find the right setting to hear it on Finale....You could write it so it is invisible to the print parts linking this effect to
a symbol that would be a space bar for instance using the articulation tool.

I would think that you could look to using some sound sampling that have the vibrato you are looking for as oppose to try to get it with a tremolo....

Good luck
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   Posted 9/22/2008 5:51 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
http://www.classicstoday.com/features/ClassicsToday-Vibrato-part1.pdf

Read this article...Here some of it :

There is no agreement, in considering the written statements of past ages, that the term
“vibrato” (or “tremolo” as it was sometimes called) meant the same thing at all times--or
even invariably referred to the actual technique under consideration here: the slight
variation in pitch produced by the rocking of the player’s left hand on the fingerboard
while stopping the string.

Until recently, the question of when to use vibrato was not an issue: everyone knew that
if a composer wrote “espressivo” over a string part he generally meant, among other
things, “use more vibrato than usual to highlight the musical line.”
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   Posted 9/23/2008 3:04 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As a string player (viola) there is a big difference between vibrato and tremolo. No symbol is needed unless you want to direct players not to use it in which case "no vib." works well.
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   Posted 9/23/2008 6:55 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I guess that "vib" is the appropriate notation. I was just wondering if there was a quick articulation symbol, like the trill's "tr" symbol in the articulation button.
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