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strawinsky1978
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   Posted 4/28/2009 5:38 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
This might be a silly question about a simple issue, but I'm going crazy about it.
I can't program a keyboard equivalent for the main tools though I'm following the instructions of the manual step by step (Option–control–F through option–control–' ). What am I doing wrong?
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   Posted 4/28/2009 9:15 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What program are you using?

How do you call the shortcut up? In Finale it's ctl-X.

Bill


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   Posted 4/28/2009 9:37 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
1. <ctrl><alt> - F.
2. A menu of the Tool Pallet is displayed. Select the tool, put a letter in the box, and press OK.
3. <ctrl> and the letter you assigned will select the tool.

Don't forget that the Selection Tool is selected by pressing <Esc>. Doubling clicking on appropriate objects with the Selection Tool brings up the appropriate tool. Pressing <enter> on a selected measure brings up the Measure Attributes dialog.


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   Posted 4/28/2009 10:25 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm using OS-X.
I did as you said, Wiggy, but the tool palette isn't displayed after typing <ctrl><alt> and F. The palette isn't displayed either if I hold cmd and click somewhere in the finale window as the manual suggests.
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   Posted 4/28/2009 10:33 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As per usual, try quitting, and trashing your preference file.
~/Library/Preferences/Finale 2009 Preferences

where ~ is your user domain.

You can move it to your Desktop if you want to put it back if it makes no difference.


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   Posted 4/28/2009 11:31 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What program are you using?

Wiggy's suggestions are for Finale 2009. Is that what you're using?

Bill


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   Posted 4/28/2009 6:33 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Oh, yes, I'm using Finale 2009. I tried trashing the preferences file, but it doesn't change anything.
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   Posted 4/29/2009 1:53 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
In the Windows version, to program such a key, you first switch to the tool you want, then press the proper key sequence.
This is poorly explained in the manual. Nothing visible happens--there's no feedback that you've programmed the key. But if you switch to another tool, the newly-programmed key will then take you back.


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   Posted 4/29/2009 2:38 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes, but I'm using Finale2009 for Mac.
(I recently switched from Windows- to Mac-Finale and had to get used to a lot of differences (esp. the lack of keyboard possibilities, e. g. the missing alt- shortcuts or the fact that you apparently can't customize the main tool palette...), but the tool shortcut issue still isn't solved.)
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   Posted 4/29/2009 3:31 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
On Mac you have a main tool pallet and a master tool pallet (on Windows just the main tool pallet if I remember correctly).

To show the main tool pallet: cmnd-T
To show the master tool pallet: ctrl-alt-cmnd - click (so not just cmnd-click)

To program a short cut to a tool:
- use Wiggy's explanation (witch doesn't seem to work in your case, but should work: are you sure you use ctrl and not cmnd?)
- use Finalescript (create a new script that calls a tool, program a shortcut to that script, you have a lot more possibilities than just 8 from F to ')

I always switch tools using the master tool pallet numbers:
1. ctrl-alt-cmnd-click in the score (I've programmed a button on my mouse to do this 'special click')
2. Type the code/number of the tool (0 for staff, 22 for Lyrics, etc., you can find the number by just clicking it with the mouse, it shows the number in the textbox)
3. Type return

For me this is by far the fastest way to switch tools (and you have more options than the F-keys on Windows).

There is, by the way, a Mac-alternative for the alt-shortcuts on Windows, but it isn't as simple to use:
- Type Ctrl-F2
- use the arrow-keys (or the first letters) to jump to the right tool
- use the arrow-keys (or the first letters) to jump to the command
(Or click on the help-menu en type the command you want to use, it shows the menu-commands first so you can execute them quite fast)


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   Posted 4/29/2009 4:34 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Just for the fun of it:

try switching the keyboard layout! I can not program shortcuts with my German keyboard layout active, but when switched to U.S. it's no problem.
Assuming you use a different layout, try switching to English U.S.




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wolf


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   Posted 4/29/2009 6:53 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thx a lot, Bart and Wolf. If I change the keyboard layout from german to english, it works indeed.
And do you know how to programe the finale script, Bart?
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   Posted 4/29/2009 8:15 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As to Finalescript, there is a long section of the manual -- 20 pages or so -- dedicated to Finalescript. I suggest you print it out and use it for a reference.

Bill


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   Posted 5/1/2009 7:44 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes, found it, thx. It really opens a new world of possibilities.
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   Posted 5/1/2009 4:29 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bart Visser said...


I always switch tools using the master tool pallet numbers:
1. ctrl-alt-cmnd-click in the score (I've programmed a button on my mouse to do this 'special click')
2. Type the code/number of the tool (0 for staff, 22 for Lyrics, etc., you can find the number by just clicking it with the mouse, it shows the number in the textbox)
3. Type return

Hey Bart:
I've been trying to program my Apple mouse scroll button, or any button for that matter, to perform that 'special click' ctrl-alt-cmnd-click.

How do you do it?


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