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Date Joined Apr 2011
Total Posts : 84
| Posted 4/20/2011 3:31 PM (GMT -5) |
|Pen and ink and manuscript paper for many decades.
Then I tried both Personal Composer and Score, neither of which were any good at the time. Both were for PC (DOS). Personal Composer was quite crude and Score was not good at all for composing and arranging, although some engravers still swear by it. Finale was a revelation when it came along.
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Date Joined Oct 2006
Total Posts : 3151
| Posted 4/20/2011 3:36 PM (GMT -5) |
|I can't remember my first, but I ran it on my Apple IIGS back in 1987 - it used a fixed staff, to which you add notational bits (including barlines, noteheads, stems, etc.).|
Then I used Professional Composer my first year of college (1991), followed by Encore for a few years, then the jump to Finale 3 pointsomething (in the school's lab).
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If the composer says in effect to the performer: "I do not care whether you perform my music or not," we cannot argue the matter. But if he indicates: "I want you to perform and respond to this music," then his fundamental duty is to write his music so that it is accessible to interpretation. When the performer cannot approach the composer's meaning because of capriciously obscure notation, he may in effect say to the composer: "Why should I bother to puzzle out your music?" - Gardner Read
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Date Joined Feb 2006
Total Posts : 14146
| Posted 4/20/2011 3:49 PM (GMT -5) |
|I used Nightingale, from '93 until I got PrintMusic 2004.|
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Favorite reference: Essential Dictionary of Music Notation, Gerou & Lusk, 1996
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Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 4504
| Posted 4/20/2011 6:42 PM (GMT -5) |
|After pencil (or rather, biro) and paper, I used "Score" briefly, then moved onto "Encore", which I stayed with to the (original) bitter end, at which point I moved to Finale (back in about 1998). To this day, Encore is more intuitive in many respects, working the way you'd "expect" for any random Windows programme, but of course, Finale does so much more, and results in better printout - even though you have to fight for it at times.|
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Date Joined May 2000
Total Posts : 1343
| Posted 4/20/2011 7:10 PM (GMT -5) |
Date Joined Oct 2007
Total Posts : 50
| Posted 4/21/2011 12:54 AM (GMT -5) |
|I had tried Professional Composer with a lot of struggle and frustration, then I made the plunge and bought Finale 1.0. The SE30 was not out yet, I was on a MacPlus with the good old 68000 chip. It think it was 8Mhz and I had 2Mb of ram that I later upgraded to the max 4 that you could put in. (kind of like my Macbook Pro now only with Gigs instead of Megs). I bought a LaCie Cirrus external hard drive and went overboard and bought a 70 Mb one instead of the regular 40 Mb that was the going thing.|
I did my masters thesis in composition on it. It was a piece for full orchestra that I had to break up into 12-16 bar chunks to work on otherwise the screen redraws would take forever when I tried to do anything. Update layout was only used sparingly because it took so long. Splitting parts was a real extravaganza. Overnight the computer would be humming away, you hope. I would set my alarm for the middle of the night so I could go and check to make sure everything was still working and nothing had crashed (which happened with dire consequences in those days—nowadays you just restart the program, reboot? really? back then it was with prayers and special offerings to the Happy Mac gods to make sure the crash hadn't toasted everything).
I was doing music copying for some of my profs for large orchestral works and at one point I kind of had a breakdown when I realized that even working 24 hours a day for a week would not be enough to finish the projects on my Mac Plus. Rather than lose the contracts, I went out and bought a Mac IIci. It was a great machine and I was able to get my projects completed in time. By then I think I was up to Finale 2.6 which was a very significant upgrade. I could go make coffee and have a break while parts were splitting, none of this checking progress at 2 am. I thought it was a miracle at the time. I remember phoning my buddy, so excited that my parts were split in ten minutes rather than 10 hours. Now that was an upgrade!
(Oh, and they didn't have an academic price, I had to pay $1200 for it—around the same price as my 70Mb hard drive, yeow!)
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Date Joined Jun 1999
Total Posts : 4984
| Posted 4/21/2011 5:54 AM (GMT -5) |
|Compared to many Finale veterans here, I came to it rather late. I bought my first Mac (a Performa 630) at about the same time as Finale 3.2, the version with which they introduced note-attached slurs. Before that I had had Notator on an Atari ('power without the price' or 'the poor man's Mac') since 1987. It was a good machine and quite fast: 8 MHz, with 1 MB of RAM and a whopping 20 Mb harddisk. I got quite adept at getting Notator to do all kinds of things it wasn't designed to do, although I had to do things like cross-staff beaming by exporting a page as a graphic and doing it in a graphics program. I even made special fonts to take care of things the program couldn't display. I upgraded to 4 MB RAM so I could use a laser printer (300 DPI!!). It was interesting to watch the print process. The printer was connected using a Direct Memory Access port which appropriated an entire MB of RAM and basically froze the system during the action. Notator would build up each line of output at full resolution which would momentarily flash across the screen (300 DPI on a 72 DPI screen!) and be saved in memory until the entire page could be sent to the printer. I remember occasionally being late for appointments because printing anything would momentarily freeze the computer's clock which would afterwards continue where it had left off. After printing a large number of pages, the system clock could be slow by as much as 20 minutes. Despite all of this, it took Finale (and the computers I've had since) many years to approach the speed with which Notator on the Atari could enter notes, build up the display and print pages.|
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Date Joined Dec 2002
Total Posts : 4272
| Posted 4/21/2011 8:11 AM (GMT -5) |
| |Rick Averill said...
Peter West said...
Finale v.1.1 on a Mac Se30
Wow, Peter, 1.1! I am duly, well and truly impressed. I would love to hear about
your impression/experiences with that first version.
It was pretty basic compared with now, but seemed sophistcated at the time. Files had to be small because the 14MHz (!) processor and 256K RAM couldn't handle much. I upgraded to 1MB Ram (for £800) which made some improvement.
We didn't have smart shapes at all, no plug ins, no engraver tuplets. It was very labour intensive, but given that previously I was working on a drawing board with drafting film, rotring pens , rulers calculators. Previous to Finale I had to work out where to put the staves and draw them, line by line before I could then draw in bar lines, braces, and eventually the notes etc. Finale was like a dream come (coming) true.
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Date Joined May 2009
Total Posts : 96
| Posted 4/21/2011 8:50 AM (GMT -5) |
|Pencil (and Flair pens) and paper, then Deluxe Music Construction Set on a 128k Mac in the mid 80s. Loved those ImageWriter dot matrix printers...NOT.|
Jumped into Finale 2.0 in 1991(?) after being shown Score on a DOS machine. (eek! lines of computer-orange code on a dark screen; I couldn't dream up anything that looked LESS like music) At the time, Finale was a revelation, even though today we'd have to snicker. Thank goodness for MakeMusic (nee Coda Music Technology) for sticking to it and offering what we have available today.
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