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MakeMusic Forum > Public Forums > Finale - Macintosh - FORUM HAS MOVED! > Finale SongBook is now available! | Forum Quick Jump
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|  JustinP Senior Product Manager
        Date Joined Mar 2009 Total Posts : 822 | Posted 6/4/2012 11:04 AM (GMT -5) |   | |
 |  Mike Rosen himself

       Date Joined Feb 2006 Total Posts : 14146 | Posted 6/4/2012 12:02 PM (GMT -5) |   | Took almost half an hour to download, but that is a server issue.
Very long launch time, and playback did not work at all, until I restarted the iPad.
Only major criticism: Can't use Dropbox to load files. This is a real issue, for me. Please add this! Both iTunes and email are less than satisfactory, IMHO.
Also, the grey on grey toolbars are very hard for me to read. The pale blue on the library page is better. Mike Rosen www.specialmillwork.com
WebMaster and bass for the Seattle SeaChordsmen www.seachordsmen.org FINALE TIPS at www.specialmillwork.com/finaletips.htm
Finale 2010, 2011, 2012 on Mac 10.7 Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker."Post Edited (Mike Rosen) : 6/4/2012 11:07:19 AM (GMT-5) | Back to Top | |
 |  JustinP Senior Product Manager
        Date Joined Mar 2009 Total Posts : 822 | Posted 6/4/2012 12:06 PM (GMT -5) |   | |
  |  Bart Visser Registered Member
        Date Joined Dec 1999 Total Posts : 90 | Posted 6/4/2012 2:34 PM (GMT -5) |   | Really happy that I'm now able to use normal Finale-files on my iPad. Converting to PDF wasn't that big a deal, but this is far more convenient. I was happy to find out that you can create your own setlist and use the bluetooth AirTurn pedals. One thing though: it only flips pages within a song. In a setlist you have to tap the screen to go to the next song. Then you can use the page turner again.
A few wishes for a next update: - Build in Dropbox support (or any other cloud service) - Annotations (invaluable during rehearsals etc.) - Change key - Change tempo (for playback) - Use custom fonts (this probably won't happen since Apple doesn't allow it, but you can always ask, can't you?)
In all I'm quite happy with this first version. It has more features that I was expecting based on the first videos MakeMusic showed.
Keep up the good work!
Bart | Back to Top | |
 |  Mircea Registered Member

       Date Joined Mar 2003 Total Posts : 642 | Posted 6/4/2012 3:31 PM (GMT -5) |   | You can change the tempo already.
Finale Songbook said... Description
Imagine bringing ALL of your music to every practice, rehearsal, and performance—in one hand. Imagine hearing sheet music play back. Imagine printing copies and parts.
Finale SongBook™ transforms your iPad into an interactive music folder, so you can view, play, and print music scores created by the entire family of Finale products. Finale is the world standard in music notation creation, and Finale SongBook™ brings this standard to the iPad.
Features:
• View, play, and print Finale .MUS files (view and print .PDF files)
• Access all parts from within score files
• Create Setlists for quick access to music during performances
• Hear music play back with the nuance of human performers
• Control tempo
• Navigate intuitively via pinch-to-zoom, double-tap, and swipe-away gestures
• Share files via email
• Flip pages hands-free via AirTurn page turners (sold separately) „E tot ce va spun!”
Finale 2012 Win7 64Bit, Phenom II x4 965, 4GB RAM, Asus Xonar Xense Audio card, etc - a good powerful PC. | Back to Top | |
 |  Count of Monte Verdi Registered Member
        Date Joined Jun 2010 Total Posts : 615 | Posted 6/4/2012 11:45 PM (GMT -5) |   | I really like the new app, and hope that some innovations from the SongBook will get into Finale proper, especially tempo changes in percents! BTW, I don't use the DropBox, but it is cool to see how easy it is to upload the .mus files via iTunes (drag and drop like GoodReader), or simply open as an email attachment.
Good job! | Back to Top | |
 |  ctj Registered Member
        Date Joined Jan 2004 Total Posts : 31 | Posted 6/5/2012 1:15 AM (GMT -5) |   | I'm happy to have the app, but the text and the notation look horrible on the iPad 3. I'm hoping that making it Retina Display compatible is high on the bug fix list. | Back to Top | |
 |  Mike Rosen himself

       Date Joined Feb 2006 Total Posts : 14146 | Posted 6/5/2012 9:16 AM (GMT -5) |   | Sad to say, I'm not impressed. The only "special" things that SongBook will do is change is open Finale files and change tempo on playback.
But once I have a PDF (such a simple step nowadays) I can import, export, organize, annotate, and share PDFs with forScore, (and I think MusicReader does much the same thing.) I can also call up a virtual piano keyboard, pitch pipe, and metronome. I can save versions, rearrange pages, make notes on a pad. I can link it to a MIDI file, and have playback.
And if I share, I don't give away a Finale file allowing someone else to edit my work!
So I don't think I will use SongBook all that often... Mike Rosen www.specialmillwork.com
WebMaster and bass for the Seattle SeaChordsmen www.seachordsmen.org FINALE TIPS at www.specialmillwork.com/finaletips.htm
Finale 2010, 2011, 2012 on Mac 10.7 Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker."Post Edited (Mike Rosen) : 6/5/2012 8:12:38 AM (GMT-5) | Back to Top | |
     |  SF Registered Member
        Date Joined Dec 2001 Total Posts : 1555 | Posted 6/5/2012 11:49 AM (GMT -5) |   | raphael said... Everything works as it should except for Document parts. Did you create parts in your Finale file? The reader only reads what is in the Finale file it will not create separate parts for you.
SF MPB 17" 3Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 8GB, 10.6.8 and 10.7.4 Power Mac 2.8 Ghz Qual-Core Intel Xeon, 16GB, 10.6.7 and 10.7.4, (2) 27" Apple Displays, 23" Cinema, 20" Formac "Gallery," Acer 21"...real estate. Finale 2.6.3-->2012a, Sib. 3.0-->7.0.3, Logic 9.1.3, QuicKeys 4.0.7, DoubleCommand DoubleCommand, Mouse Locator Mouse Locator | Back to Top | |
    |  Mike Rosen himself

       Date Joined Feb 2006 Total Posts : 14146 | Posted 6/5/2012 1:31 PM (GMT -5) |   | |
  |  Flint silly bear

       Date Joined Oct 2006 Total Posts : 3151 | Posted 6/5/2012 3:43 PM (GMT -5) |   |
ctj said...
Wiggy said...
Philip. said... I have the same result, I've installed nothing but the files supplied by default. It looks like that app has not yet been optimized for Retina. As far as I know, font data should not need "optimizing for Retina". It will display at the native resolution of the screen. Optimizing for Retina refers to things like icons and bitmapped graphics. Not exactly. Amazon and Apple both had to re-release their reader apps to adapt to the new screen (Kindle, iBooks). There's more to it than just buttons and icons. I'm sure it looks great on the iPad 2, but it's awful on the 3. I guess I'll find out tonight when I download it on my 2! woodwind specialist and doubler - Finale 2011b using Speedy Entry - no capslock, GPO 2nd ed. Full version, Garritan Jazz & Big Band, Garritan Concert and Marching Band, Windows 7 64-bit SP1, 4GB RAM, Soundblaster Audigy II zs
If the composer says in effect to the performer: "I do not care whether you perform my music or not," we cannot argue the matter. But if he indicates: "I want you to perform and respond to this music," then his fundamental duty is to write his music so that it is accessible to interpretation. When the performer cannot approach the composer's meaning because of capriciously obscure notation, he may in effect say to the composer: "Why should I bother to puzzle out your music?" - Gardner Read
"Finale 2012 ate my bay-bay." | Back to Top | |
 |  Mike Rosen himself

       Date Joined Feb 2006 Total Posts : 14146 | Posted 6/5/2012 3:50 PM (GMT -5) |   | raphael said... Thanks Bill and Mike,
So, for files created in PrintMusic and lower, the app is not quite so useful. What a shame. Maybe SongBook Rev.1????
raphael
Just for the sake of more data, I can confirm this with PM 2011. A new SATB+piano, from the setup wizard, shows Score and No Parts in the parts window. Mike Rosen www.specialmillwork.com
WebMaster and bass for the Seattle SeaChordsmen www.seachordsmen.org FINALE TIPS at www.specialmillwork.com/finaletips.htm
Finale 2010, 2011, 2012 on Mac 10.7 Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker."Post Edited (Mike Rosen) : 6/8/2012 10:25:02 AM (GMT-5) | Back to Top | |
 |  Paco Ojeda Registered Member
        Date Joined Jun 2012 Total Posts : 6 | Posted 6/8/2012 11:12 AM (GMT -5) |   | Cheers from Puerto Vallarta, Mexico!
My wish list for SongBook is to be able to turn staves on and off on playback for rehearsal and play-along purposes. (For example, I've scored a recorder quartet, and I may want to practice the soprano part, and then, the alto part...)
Gracias,
Paco | Back to Top | |
 |  Mike Rosen himself

       Date Joined Feb 2006 Total Posts : 14146 | Posted 6/8/2012 11:26 AM (GMT -5) |   | Since I have been less than enthused in my earlier posts, I have to admit that I have used the app a few times. Not to playback, print, share, take to rehearsals, etc. but simply to view files posted on this (or the other) Finale forum.
For this purpose, it works fine, and I'm enjoying the convenience. Mike Rosen www.specialmillwork.com
WebMaster and bass for the Seattle SeaChordsmen www.seachordsmen.org FINALE TIPS at www.specialmillwork.com/finaletips.htm
Finale 2010, 2011, 2012 on Mac 10.7 Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker." | Back to Top | |
  |  Mike Rosen himself

       Date Joined Feb 2006 Total Posts : 14146 | Posted 6/8/2012 4:00 PM (GMT -5) |   | Bill, the first time, it came down as a generic document, and I had to select Songbook from the open in... list. Subsequent downloads have the Finale icon, and open in Songbook is the primary button.
Interesting. When I wrote my response, I used upper case O for open in... , and it showed that way in the Response pane. But when it gets to the forum, the O becomes lower case. The fuzzy bunny syndrome strikes again! Mike Rosen www.specialmillwork.com
WebMaster and bass for the Seattle SeaChordsmen www.seachordsmen.org FINALE TIPS at www.specialmillwork.com/finaletips.htm
Finale 2010, 2011, 2012 on Mac 10.7 Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker."Post Edited (Mike Rosen) : 6/8/2012 3:08:38 PM (GMT-5) | Back to Top | |
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