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Brad Pearson
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   Posted 7/11/2012 5:41 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Please forgive me if this has been addressed here. I did a search and did not see this topic recently.

I just upgraded to 2012 a short time ago. I made the mistake of upgrading to a new version right in the middle of my busiest time of year. No excuse except that several of my key clients had already updated and I needed to be current with them in the version!

I am a bit puzzled by Scoremanager, and a cursory overview of the documentation for it (in the online user manual) did not address my question.

In previous versions of Finale, I could essentially save my instrument setup as a library (under the File menu "save library..."). Thus when creating a new score or updating an older score to more recent instruments, I could quickly load the library and assign them to the staves. This was particularly helpful, as I write marching band arrangements for different sizes of bands. I could create a band library (using Garritan's COMB 2) for a HUGE band, but then load that library into a smaller band template and just select the instruments needed (and omitting instruments that the smaller band might not have, i.e. bari saxes or bass clarinets or bass guitar or synth, etc.).
I am not finding this particularly easy to do, if at all, in 2012.
Perhaps there's just a change in nomenclature that I've missed?

thanks for any help you may give.

I'll update my signature below to reflect my current setup...

Brad


Brad Pearson
THG Music
Spokane WA
Apple MacBook Pro, 15", 2.33 gHz, 3 gig RAM, OS 10.6.7, Finale 2011, Kontakt 4.1 (full version), Garritan libraries

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Brad Pearson
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   Posted 7/11/2012 5:44 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
OK, my signature didn't update like I thought it would. Perhaps it will show up now...


Brad Pearson
THG Music
Spokane WA
Apple iMac 27" (2011 model), 3.1 gHz quad core, 16 gig RAM, OS 10.7.4, Finale 2012 & 2011, Garritan COMB 2, Garritan Personal Orchestra 4

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Dr. Wiggy
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   Posted 7/12/2012 9:43 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Brad,

You can of course create and save ensembles in the Setup Wizard, for use with Document Styles. Thus you build your initial document from an ensemble group, with settings and prefs from a Doc Style file.
As I understand it, the whole point about 2012 is that it should assign the instruments automatically for you. Also, that Finale applies whatever sounds you have on your computer to the document. So if a stave is specified as a Trumpet, then a trumpet sound is loaded for that stave.

In short, you shouldn't need to load in Libraries of instruments, as they will be auto-assigned anyway. You can always click on "Reassign Playback Sounds" to .... reassign the sounds.


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Brad Pearson
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   Posted 7/24/2012 2:57 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think I can better describe my problem now.

Let's say I've set up a score for marching band, using Garritan Aria player for the playback device and using Garritan COMB 2 for the sample library.

This situation is a real one that I dealt with not too long ago.

I had done an arrangement, sent it to a client with Audio Unit playback selected and the marching band score set up the way I described above.
He made a few tweaks in the score, but since he didn't have COMB 2, he just used general midi sounds.
He sent it back to me. When I re-selected playback through audio units, Finale "forgot" my previous set-up and just used Finale instruments for playback. This was down to ScoreManager making choices for which instruments to use.
I know that in previous versions of Finale, I could switch back and forth between Audio Unit playback and midi playback and not have a problem with my instrument set-up being disrupted.

So, that was a back and forth with a customer.
I also recently had an issue where I saved the score under a different name (score A, score B, etc. to reflect rewrites). When I went back to the original score, having made no changes to the playback device chosen, again ScoreManager stepped in and changed my set-up.

What I would really like is some way to save a set-up that I could auto-load in a situation like this. In previous versions, you could set up instrument libraries whereby this could be done quite quickly and expeditiously. Now, I have to go in and change instrument by instrument. It's just a pain, especially when I'm in the middle of a workflow.

Is there a way to save a set-up (like my marching band set-up) so that I could quickly load it into an *existing* score (not a new score)?

thanks...


Brad Pearson
THG Music
Spokane WA
Apple iMac 27" (2011 model), 3.1 gHz quad core, 16 gig RAM, OS 10.7.4, Finale 2012 & 2011, Garritan COMB 2, Garritan Personal Orchestra 4

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Dr. Wiggy
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   Posted 7/24/2012 3:25 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Brad

As I've already explained: the point of 2012 is that the file is more "portable". It uses whatever sounds are available to the computer, without having to change anything. So sending it to your customer who doesn't have COMB2 should be no problem. Neither of you need to change to and from Playback through Midi. He can playback through Audio Units using SmartMusicSoftSynth sounds (or even the Apple MIDI samples), and you can playback using COMB2.

If he has modified the playback path, all you need to do is reselect "PlayBack through Audio Units", and then Reassign Playback Sounds. This will automatically change to the sample library at the top of the list in your SoundMap Priority. The samples in that library used will be those specified by the instruments you've assigned to the staves. In other words, if you've assigned a Bb Trumpet instrument, it will load in a Trumpet sound.

You don't need to reset each one manually.


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   Posted 7/24/2012 5:04 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The Aria player does allow saving Ensemble setups. One suggestion would be to save these once the file was finished. I believe you would need one file for each bank. Then, if you get the file back from your collaborator, just reload these saved ensembles.

If Mac doesn't have this option (I use Windows), then my apologies in advance.

Zuill


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