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Mike Rosen
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   Posted 12/27/2013 12:38 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Motet said...
Note the O.P. said layer 2. I wonder if it's related to that.


I missed that in the original post, sorry. I just tried it again, with no problems. I was able to delete both single notes, or notes in a chord. I would still like to see documents from the people with the problem.



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   Posted 12/27/2013 12:12 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Note the O.P. said layer 2. I wonder if it's related to that.


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   Posted 12/27/2013 6:25 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Motet said...
No one thought to test the eraser tool?!

As Mike has shown, this issue is not necessarily reproducible for others. Your correct range of assumptions is:

1. The tool was tested and the problem not observed.
2. The tool was tested, and the problem was observed, reported, and is now a known issue.


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   Posted 12/26/2013 5:49 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I just checked the Eraser tool in my copy of 2014, and it works correctly. I was able to delete single notes, and notes that were part of a chord.

Would the people who are having problems be willing to post a misbehaving document?



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   Posted 12/26/2013 5:35 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Since I don 't get a crash, I might assume it is file specific or not a Windows issue.

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   Posted 12/26/2013 5:28 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
No one thought to test the eraser tool?!


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Mike Rosen
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   Posted 12/26/2013 4:49 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
No argument there; tools should work. I was only offering another method, until the problem is fixed.



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   Posted 12/26/2013 4:32 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have to agree with HSGNOTES: regardless of work flow prefs, the tools should work correctly. Using the erase tool also crashes my program.


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   Posted 11/22/2013 10:55 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks Mike. Just tried that. Cute, but on the occasions when the eraser works, it's a bit faster.

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   Posted 11/22/2013 10:22 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Herman, I don't use Speedy. In simple, to delete a single note in a chord, I select the chord, and CMD+up or down arrow moves the selection to individual notes.

As you say, it's a matter of workflow and preference.



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   Posted 11/22/2013 10:10 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Mike, logically we ought to be able to use any of Finale's tools without having to create work-arounds. Of course, personal preference is another story. If I want to delete one note of a 5-note piano chord, the eraser tool arrow would seem to be easier to use. I haven't yet tried select and delete. Do you mean with the speedy entry tool? The selection tool will not (for me) select a single note of a chord. The problem seems to have something to do with the layer I'm in.


Vaughn, yes, it's the same file. But I haven't had time to try it on other files, which were not created with .xml.
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   Posted 11/22/2013 1:27 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Is this in all files or only in one particular one (like the 75-page file with the redrawing problem on page 20)?


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   Posted 11/21/2013 11:38 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I never use the eraser tool. I select a note, and hit the Delete key. Does that work correctly?



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   Posted 11/21/2013 8:48 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Trying to delete some rests and notes in layer 2 has caused multiple crashes.

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