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HSGNOTES
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   Posted 11/25/2013 2:53 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Maybe this is a new one.

With a Finale file on screen, I switch to some other program temporarily, like Mail for example. If I accidentally bump the space bar, the Finale file begins to play and cannot be stopped. If I have nothing else to do but watch the cursor moving across the many measure to the end of the piece, the playback will end and I can access the file again. Otherwise, I have to force quit Finale to stop the playback.

Using Fin 2014, and OSX 10.9
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   Posted 11/25/2013 2:59 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Pressing the spacebar when you switched to Mail should not cause Finale's playback to start.

However, if you start playback and then switch, you can get back to Finale using <command><Tab>, or by clicking on the icon in the Dock; or using Mission Control.
Any of those should allow you to press the stop button of the playback controls.


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   Posted 11/25/2013 3:29 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wiggy,

It a kind of crash that paralyzes Finale but keeps the playback going. No buttons are pushable and I can't even drag the file window around.

Herman
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   Posted 11/25/2013 4:23 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
That doesn't sound normal. Contact MM Support, see if they can help.
TEST the problem in a brand new user account, and/or uninstall any third-party software you've got running in the background.


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   Posted 11/25/2013 4:30 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Reading e-mail while using Finale is like texting while driving. It should be avoided.

Zuill


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   Posted 11/25/2013 9:09 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I've had a similar problem back in my old computer windows days. Sometimes the playback would just not stop until the end of the piece. My guess it was a memory problem. You don't have your system specs in your signature. That might help the troubleshooters around here.


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   Posted 11/25/2013 9:22 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I get the same behaviour if I click the mouse while the spacebar is down. Nothing to do but wait it out.


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   Posted 11/26/2013 12:51 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I don't think I should be expected to throw in the towel so quickly. I'm guessing that none of the problems I experienced recently are mine alone. Perhaps most Finale users have learned to accept frustration along with all the good times, and simply don't bother reporting many issues. Why can't these issues be fixed promptly? I didn't pay for a beta of Finale.

Jamie, I think it's unreasonable to expect a user to "wait out" a bug in the program.

Ronwass, I'm running Fin 2014 and OSX 10.9 with more than enough memory. I've had too many problems to just dismiss them with an "Oh, well." The wasted time adds up.

Zulli, why should we have to be so watchful of every move we make with Finale running? It's not logical nor fair to the users.

Herman
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   Posted 11/26/2013 12:53 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wiggy, I had a feeling that Apple Mail was the cause of a few non-music problems as well. I just can't prove it. I will turn it off before loading Finale, tho', just to be safe.
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   Posted 11/26/2013 1:08 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
HSGNOTES said...
I don't think I should be expected to throw in the towel so quickly. I'm guessing that none of the problems I experienced recently are mine alone. Perhaps most Finale users have learned to accept frustration along with all the good times, and simply don't bother reporting many issues. Why can't these issues be fixed promptly? I didn't pay for a beta of Finale.


If everyone guesses that it's not his/hers problems alone and don't report the issues, the issue will not be fixed. Report the bugs you find that are affecting your workflow.


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   Posted 11/26/2013 1:49 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
HSGNOTES said...

Zulli, why should we have to be so watchful of every move we make with Finale running? It's not logical nor fair to the users.

Herman
I was just joking. I know about these kinds of behavior. I'm sorry if it was taken as a serious comment. I have not had that problem, but with older versions and Windows, I would have a reorganizing of all of my palettes and toolbars when going elsewhere while Finale was open. Finale has had these issues. I was just playing around with the comment.
 
Sorry,
 
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   Posted 11/26/2013 2:15 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Didn't you know?

You CAN'T stop the music!


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   Posted 11/26/2013 2:16 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Zulli, I never thought you were serious. But I was serious! It's amazing that a program that has been around and respected for so long, is making people nuts. What, besides expensive software, can you buy expecting to have immediate and time consuming problems?

Post Edited (HSGNOTES) : 11/26/2013 12:20:02 PM (GMT-6)

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   Posted 11/26/2013 2:22 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jari, of course you are correct.
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   Posted 11/26/2013 7:43 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
HSGNOTES said...
What, besides expensive software, can you buy expecting to have immediate and time consuming problems?

A musical instrument?


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   Posted 11/27/2013 7:04 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
HSGNOTES said...
Maybe this is a new one.

With a Finale file on screen, I switch to some other program temporarily, like Mail for example. If I accidentally bump the space bar, the Finale file begins to play and cannot be stopped. If I have nothing else to do but watch the cursor moving across the many measure to the end of the piece, the playback will end and I can access the file again. Otherwise, I have to force quit Finale to stop the playback.

Using Fin 2014, and OSX 10.9

Weirdly, this is VERY similar behaviour to what happens in Finale 2005b running on Windows Vista and 7 ... in that case, it ONLY affects "<space><click>" playback, but NOT playback from the controls!

Here is a link to one of my threads from way back: forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=5&m=180043

Brian


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   Posted 11/27/2013 3:24 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ebony Ivory, that's an interesting link. Back to the future stuff, now known as updates, fixes, and improvements.
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   Posted 11/27/2013 3:26 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Vaughn, that's the truth!
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Ebony Ivory
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   Posted 11/27/2013 3:32 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
HSGNOTES said...
Ebony Ivory, that's an interesting link. Back to the future stuff, now known as updates, fixes, and improvements.

Hehe - pleased to foretell!

FWIW, that post was only a few weeks before Carla banned me from this forum! I had to come back under the guise of "Saffron" until Justin (bless him, sorely missed) re-instated me!

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