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Michel R. E.
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| Posted 2/4/2014 9:20 PM (GMT -5) |
|Why is the piano part larger than the other staves? This is the full score, there's no reason for it.|
You should consolidate the staves for same instruments: 2 flutes together, 2 oboes together, etc... wherever possible.
And this would avoid errors like you have on page 4, measure 50, clarinet II. There's no reason to write "II" for the 2nd clarinet, if it's already alone on its own staff.
Your staves wouldn't have to be so small if instruments shared staves wherever possible. Looking just through the first 10 pages or so, I see no reason to have flutes, oboes, clarinets and bassoons each on its individual staff. you could easily make that 2 flutes sharing one staff, 2 oboes on one, etc...
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| Posted 2/5/2014 6:47 AM (GMT -5) |
|I like the solo part in larger print than the others, even in full score. I have made scores for several concertos by Kalevi Aho, with those larger solo staffs and the conductors have liked the result - it helps them to follow the solo part better especially in pieces with larger orchestra. I think I got the idea for larger solo staff from the engraved Sibelius violin concerto. The staff needs not to be too large, however; even 10-15% will do nicely. I would too consolidate some staffs (woodwinds mostly) to make the overall staff size slightly larger/less crowded.|
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| Posted 2/5/2014 9:07 AM (GMT -5) |
| |I'd never noticed, but, yes, the solo fiddle stave is larger than the others in my score of the Sibelius concerto. There're an awful lot of notes in the solo part, so in theory, this might make things a little easier to read. Mind you, the same enlarged solo stave is not printed in the published score of the Schoenberg fiddle concerto, which probably has at least as many notes in the solo part. I'm comparing the two, since Hilary Hahn fairly recently (2008) recorded the two together on an entirely wonderful CD with the Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra and Esa-Pekka Salonen, to which I've just listened for the umpteenth time.
I think I got the idea for larger solo staff from the engraved Sibelius violin concerto. The staff needs not to be too large, however; even 10-15% will do nicely.
Despite the enlarged solo stave, I don't think I find my score of the Sibelius any easier to read than that of the Schoenberg, so I'm not sure that there's any gain from this practice.
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| Posted 7/17/2014 2:08 PM (GMT -5) |
I'm just getting back to this score after a long hiatus. I thank all for their comments.
One question I have is:
How does one add in a new staff line and have the staff groups, braces and such actually work. That is what is the effective process? I tried following the directions in the manual and not got effective results. (Currently and for some odd reason, I've lost the manual in the last couple of weeks -- it no longer opens at all. I will try re-installing, but this has happened before).
You see, since I've already got the individual staff lines done (say Flute 1, Flute 2), I want to add in a Flute 1+2 (and other lines, of course for bassoon, etc.) while keeping the individual Flute 1, Flute 2 lines. The reason is that when I combine Flutes 1 and Flute 2 on one line (implode music), and make all of the required combinations (and many, many corrections), that line will (in my experience) not extract separate parts very easily (or will require much effort at clean-up). I will use the individual lines for parts as they are all correct in the score (or will be). The unnecessary staff lines will be hidden in the full score, of course.
Does that question make sense?
Please note I am using Finale 2006.
All best wishes and thanks in advance,
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