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   Posted 7/5/2014 11:16 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Does anyone know of a way to download the Finale 2012 User Manual as a PDF? I would like to put it on my iPad.

Thanks for any help.

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   Posted 7/5/2014 11:54 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It doesn't exist as in PDF format, but I think you should be able to view it from MakeMusic's website on your iPad.
If you want to view it offline on your iPad, then it mgiht be possible to copy the web files over from the copy on your hard drive.


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   Posted 7/6/2014 4:51 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Even back when MM did supply the User's Manual in PDF format by chapter, it was impractical to print it out.  Believe me, I did it once, and it generated a stack of 8.5 x 11 sheets front and back that must have been close to 6" high.  I put it in  two 3" ring binders and seldom referred to it.  I eventually discarded it, wishing I had saved a few trees.


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   Posted 7/6/2014 7:49 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I would like to have had a 2012 or 2014 (or 2010 or 2011) pdf or printed manual. I like to learn about programs by reading about what the program does. For example, I never new that one could adjust the look of the toolbars as it never occurred to me that this could be done. I found out about it reading complaints that 2014 removed the functionality.

The tutorials are useful but limited. Now I just peruse the menus to find out what help questions to ask. When I need a feature, I open each menu to see what's there. I did find out about Latin drumming (but it took several weeks to figure out how to get a drum line into a file in a useful manner; the latin percussion in GWI doesn't mesh at all with the Latin Drumming stuff an the notation is different as well as being different from what's on the internet).


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   Posted 7/7/2014 12:35 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Why not look at the Trailblazer book?



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   Posted 7/7/2014 2:58 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
ttw said...
I would like to have had a 2012 or 2014 (or 2010 or 2011) pdf or printed manual. I like to learn about programs by reading about what the program does. For example, I never new that one could adjust the look of the toolbars as it never occurred to me that this could be done. I found out about it reading complaints that 2014 removed the functionality.

Did you read the complaints on a printed page, a PDF, or on a web page? :p

Seriously, as said a printout of the HTML manual would be massive and not very useful. There is a published book if that's what you want, and it's very good.
If you want to read the help pages on an iPad or Mac/PC, then you have the HTML pages on your computer.


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   Posted 7/7/2014 3:05 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I don't have the F2014 Trailblazer book, but I do have the F2012 edition.  While it is good, it is really only useful for the Finale initiate/novice/newbie, as it does not go into anything that I would consider expert or power user level.  I suspect the F2014 edition is the same.  Just my opinion.


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   Posted 7/7/2014 8:49 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I don't think the op asked for a printed hard copy version, just a pdf to read on a tablet.


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   Posted 7/8/2014 1:39 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ronwass said...
I don't think the op asked for a printed hard copy version, just a pdf to read on a tablet.

I can read the Finale user manual on my iPhone. It doesn't have to be a PDF.
As originally, said, It may be possible to copy the Help files from your Mac to your iPad so you can view them offline on the iPad.


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   Posted 7/8/2014 9:24 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wiggy, is it possible for you to explain the process you went through to get the User Manual to your iPhone? It would be very helpful to me.
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   Posted 7/8/2014 9:48 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The user manual is on the MakeMusic website. A quick google search for "Finale 2014 user manual", and I was there.

It may be possible to use one of the many File storage apps for iOS, like DropBox, to copy the Help files from your Mac over to your iPad, so that you can view them offline, if you want.


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   Posted 7/8/2014 10:40 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Unless you have poor internet connectivity, I don't see an advantage to keeping a local copy.


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   Posted 7/8/2014 11:35 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I specifically chose a WiFi-only iPad (because I really don't have a use for mobile data), so if I were to need a local copy, I'd simply add it to the iPad via the iTunes interface, probably using GoodReader.


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   Posted 7/8/2014 12:14 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Motet said...
Unless you have poor internet connectivity, I don't see an advantage to keeping a local copy.

Except for the usefulness of being able to read it where there's no internet, there isn't really any usefulness, I agree.


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   Posted 7/8/2014 1:49 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
That's is exactly the reason. I'm going to a place with no internet connection and if I had it on my iPad I thought I'd be able to learn about some of the more sophisticated areas of Finale.
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   Posted 7/8/2014 1:55 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
With the Windows version of 2011, it installed the HTML manual on my computer, in a folder called Help Files. Does the Mac version have that? Maybe you can copy that folder to your iPad and look at it with Safari.


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   Posted 7/8/2014 2:27 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Is there an echo in here? :p
I've suggested moving files from the Mac to the iPad three times in the thread already.


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   Posted 7/9/2014 12:44 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sorry.

An explicit pathname might be of help to the O.P.


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   Posted 7/9/2014 1:00 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes, a path to the file would be most helpful. I can't find the so-called HTML file for the 2012 User Manual.
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   Posted 7/9/2014 1:39 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It's in:

/Library/Application Support/MakeMusic/Finale 2012/Help Files


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   Posted 10/1/2015 10:15 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
HI everybody,
no trace of an help files folder in the suggested path for my Finale 2014 on mac mini...
Did something changed recently?
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   Posted 10/1/2015 10:29 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Are you looking in the top level Library folder? Not the user Library?

(Obviously, the path listed above says 2012, and you need the 2014 folder!)

You can also check the location in the application preferences > Folders.


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   Posted 10/1/2015 10:50 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you Wiggy! I was searching in the user folder (I'm relatively new to mac to, coming from the windows world...).
Now I've found what I was searching for! [in this case, at least... :-)]


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