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jcolman
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   Posted 12/13/2014 7:26 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I've edited a score in SmartScore X2 Pro with many two-note tremolos. When I save as a MusicXML file and import it into Finale, it's a mess. None of the tremolos import correctly. Is it beyond hope or is there a workaround to this problem? Thanks for your help.

Jim Colman
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   Posted 12/13/2014 10:27 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I just created a score in Finale with a measure containing 2 note tremolos, constructed by adding eighth notes to a bar and running the TGTools easy tremolos plugin. After saving this as an XML file and re-importing it, the translation was successful. So apparently tremolos can be imported correctly, but it will probably depend on how SmartScore is writing them to the XML.

Looking at a single note entry in my MusicXML file from Finale, we see this:

<note default-x="84">
<pitch>
<step>C</step>
<octave>5</octave>
</pitch>
<duration>8</duration>
<voice>1</voice>
<type>quarter</type>
<time-modification>
<actual-notes>2</actual-notes>
<normal-notes>1</normal-notes>
</time-modification>
<stem default-y="-57">down</stem>
<notations>
<ornaments>
<tremolo type="start">3</tremolo>
</ornaments>
</notations>
</note>

As you can see, Finale wrote this to XML as a sort of tuplet made out of quarter notes adjusted to only fill half their value (2 actual in the place of 1 normal). The relevant sections seem to be the <type>, <time-modification> and <notations> tags. If you look at your XML from SmartScore, you might be able to figure out how it is writing the tremolo data and then essentially do a find and replace with what Finale is expecting to see.

If that fails, it might be quicker to remove the tremolos in SmartScore and create them freshly in Finale. Alternatively you could also post your Finale score here and see if people have some quick tips for correcting the problems.
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   Posted 12/13/2014 10:47 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you. It's disappointing that the conversion isn't more accurate. If the SmartScore software says it can import into Finale via MusicXML, it seems like it should handle typical musical notation. I really appreciate you taking time to respond. Thank you again.

Jim
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   Posted 12/14/2014 12:41 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
This is how SmartScore Pro X2 wrote the XML for a bar with a quarter-note based tremolo from F to A then 3 C quarter notes completing the bar.

<note>
<pitch>
<step>F</step>
<octave>4</octave>
</pitch>
<duration>10</duration>
<voice>1</voice>
<type>quarter</type>
<stem>up</stem>
</note>
<note>
<pitch>
<step>A</step>
<octave>4</octave>
</pitch>
<duration>10</duration>
<voice>1</voice>
<type>quarter</type>
<stem>up</stem>
</note>
<note>
<pitch>
<step>C</step>
<octave>5</octave>
</pitch>
<duration>10</duration>
<voice>1</voice>
<type>quarter</type>
<stem>down</stem>
</note>
<note>
<pitch>
<step>C</step>
<octave>5</octave>
</pitch>
<duration>10</duration>
<voice>1</voice>
<type>quarter</type>
<stem>down</stem>
</note>
<note>
<pitch>
<step>C</step>
<octave>5</octave>
</pitch>
<duration>10</duration>
<voice>1</voice>
<type>quarter</type>
<stem>down</stem>
</note>
<backup>
<duration>10</duration>
</backup>
</measure><!--

The result shown in Finale 2012C is just 4 quarter notes with no tremolo or other ornamentation.

I doubt that SmartScore is using the latest XML implementation but I dont' know for certain.


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   Posted 12/14/2014 4:15 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks for posting that. Yeah, it's pretty clear that SmartScore isn't making any attempt to add the tremolo to the XML. It just has 5 quarter notes, all written identically with the same duration. And then at the end of the bar it has that <backup/> element as a sort of hack to fix the fact that 5 beats don't fit in the bar. My guess would be they did that with some sort of check after writing each bar to make sure the passed time matched the measure's duration according to the time sig, and if they found it didn't, they'd add either a <forward/> or <backup/> element with the duration to match the difference. There are no clues in there as to where the tremolo would fall, so there's nothing that can be done to fix the XML after it has been written. Sounds like a feature request for SmartScore. It would be better if they'd just convert the two quarter notes with the tremolo to eighth notes. I guess that's what I'd do manually in SmartScore before exporting.
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