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Peter West
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   Posted 6/29/2016 7:49 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi

Has anyone seen this, and if so is there a solution? I'm tearing my hair out (what's left of it)...

If I set a series of tuplets so that the first event in the tuplet is a rest, then COPY (not move) the layer to another layer, then tuplets that launch off a rest only display their number and bracket in the active layer, not in both layers. All tuplets that launch off a note behave normally (i.e. show on both layers)


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   Posted 6/29/2016 8:19 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Peter -
You're hiding the rest in one of the layers, right? I get the same result; the bracket/number seems to be taking visibility from the first note. I guess the workaround is to superimpose the rests...
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   Posted 6/29/2016 9:27 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I reported this to MM in December 2013! I reported it AGAIN in December, 2015.

My workaround:
If you have it turned on, uncheck Document Options>Layers>Consolidate Rests Across Layers. Then use JW Change>Rests>Vertical Level>0 to center the rests, while leaving the brackets in both layers. The full TG Tools works, as well.

MM's "solution":
1. Using Simple Entry, highlight the quarter rest and press S to split it.
2. Then, highlight the lower rest and press H to hide it.
3. Next, highlight the upper rest and move it down using the down arrow key.



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   Posted 6/29/2016 9:34 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What happens if you just toggle the rest to a note and back?


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   Posted 6/29/2016 9:40 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Same thing. Bracket appears with a note, but disappears again with a rest.



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   Posted 6/29/2016 9:43 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The tuplet always takes its visibility from the attachment note or rest. Typical 'bad planning' bug.
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   Posted 6/29/2016 10:42 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If you don't want to turn the combining of rests off for the entire document, that can be turned off on a measure by measure basis manually. Even better, you can turn that off with Jari's JW Change plugin, then center the rests as Mike suggested. These 2 operations can be combined into a sequence within Jari's plugin for future use, so it becomes a one click operation.

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Peter West
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   Posted 6/29/2016 10:59 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Brilliant, thanks everyone. It's a pin, but fortunately not too many in this piece despite its complexity.
All the best
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