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Gary the T
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   Posted 10/23/2016 4:13 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
@nordensten; @Michel R. E.

Thanks for the info about note entry. I much prefer MIDI entry, i.e. Speedy (except for the nonsense I'm going through at the moment, which you can read about here, if you're totally looking for a way to fall asleep quickly), to point-and-click or QWERTY-based note entry, just because the music keyboard is my natural milieu.

I rarely, if ever, try to play my stuff in real-time rhythm or tempo, but for 20 years I've entered 95% of my notes with one hand on the MIDI keyboard and the other on the number pad, and that's a hard habit to break.

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Gary


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Dr. Wiggy
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   Posted 10/23/2016 4:18 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Gary the T said...
I much prefer MIDI entry, i.e. Speedy

Simple does MIDI entry, too. (Jus' sayin' ;-) )


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   Posted 10/23/2016 4:36 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Right, MIDI is not the issue. Rather, the main issue for me is duration-oriented (specify a duration, then enter one or more pitches) or pitch-oriented (specify a pitch, then enter one or more durations). My ideal would be to have both (which Speedy does, albeit a little clumsily, with CapsLock). Sometimes one is desirable, sometimes the other. It appears Dorico is duration-oriented.


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   Posted 10/23/2016 6:56 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dr. Wiggy said...
Simple does MIDI entry, too. (Jus' sayin' ;-) )

D'oh! Forgot all about that! I use Simple so rarely that it (like Hyperscribe) barely registers in my consciousness.

@Motet:

I like CapsLock with Speedy when I'm putting in something like Jesu, Joy…


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   Posted 10/28/2016 3:01 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Finally got the educational cross grade for Dorico yesterday.

First impressions are that the interface seems well designed. The Players/Flows/Layouts concept is a paradigm shift that will take a while to get used to.

It's pretty impressive how much direct control there is over certain aspects like the width and taper of slurs. It's clear that they have laid the groundwork for future improvements that could very well make Dorico *the* notation program one day…


…but not today. As others have noted, there's just a lot of basic stuff that isn't in there yet. Not being able to manually change the space between staves is something that I'm not sure how anyone could do without. Then again, I get the sense from the forum that most of the people who are switching to Dorico are strictly composing with it (seems like the bulk of the transplants are coming from Sibelius) rather than engraving, so maybe Dorico's spacing algorithms are good enough for that kind of work.

I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the software, as I certainly won't be able to use it for anything serious in its current state.

I'm also looking forward to seeing if MakeMusic has any kind of response to the release of Dorico (they did release 25.1 on the same day Dorico released) in terms of increasing the flexibility of graphical manipulation.


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