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   Posted 10/18/2016 12:16 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I thought the VSL keyswitch dump file - which basically gives you a lot of keyswitches and controller settings as hidden text expressions (something I once tried to make myself, but failed), was pretty cool. I'm using w/ some VSL (non-Special Edition) samples, but also with other libraries.

Thing is - I'm noticing that all kinds of hidden keyswitches seem to be being added to various staves, whether or not I'm using hidden keyswitch expressions on them.

I'm attaching an example of a passage for strings. Most of the keyswitches here are actually being entered as hidden notes in layer 4, but a couple of the VSL keyswitches are used too.

The only keyswitches in use are C and F#. But when I open up a midi file of the excerpt in Logic, I see that C#s and D#s have been added.

I'm attaching the finale (25) and midi file of the excerpt in question. Major nuissance. Maybe it's something other than my use of those hidden expressions - maybe someone can see the problem here?

(UGH - I can't attach the finale file... will try to make it smaller somehow and add. 1.5mb as an attachment size limit is pretty archaic, no?)


Daniel Sonenberg
Macbook Pro 2.5 GHz Intel Core i7
OSX 10.9.4
16 gig ram
GPO4 full and JABB3
A bunch of sample libraries
Finale 25
Logic X

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   Posted 10/18/2016 12:18 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
For what it's worth - I'm noticing, looking in Logic, that very MANY of my staves have hidden keyswitches added to the midi file, usually C# and D#0. It doesn't affect most of the patches, but some it does. Where can these be coming from? Trying to get an example together.


Daniel Sonenberg
Macbook Pro 2.5 GHz Intel Core i7
OSX 10.9.4
16 gig ram
GPO4 full and JABB3
A bunch of sample libraries
Finale 25
Logic X

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   Posted 10/18/2016 12:31 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Okay - here is a simple example. Just a clarinet example. You'll see I've used a hidden key switch. No hidden expressions used here. If you have a moment, take a look at the finale file, and then look at the midi file in a DAW - note the D#0s and C#0s that have been added. Where are they coming from???


Daniel Sonenberg
Macbook Pro 2.5 GHz Intel Core i7
OSX 10.9.4
16 gig ram
GPO4 full and JABB3
A bunch of sample libraries
Finale 25
Logic X



File Attachment :
TSK II-2 2016 TSK Clarinet example.musx   121KB (application/octet-stream)
This file has been downloaded 90 time(s).

File Attachment :
TSK II-2 2016 TSK Clarinet example.midi   0KB (audio/midi)
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   Posted 10/18/2016 12:35 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As might be expected, the problem goes away if I disable Human Playback. I am using the VSL SE Human Playback preferences. I don't understand what setting in there may be generating these extraneous notes.


Daniel Sonenberg
Macbook Pro 2.5 GHz Intel Core i7
OSX 10.9.4
16 gig ram
GPO4 full and JABB3
A bunch of sample libraries
Finale 25
Logic X

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