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MikeHalloran
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| Posted 10/31/2016 6:50 AM (GMT -5) |   | Through the '80s and still practiced by many, the convention is to leave vocal lines unbeamed. I know many older singers who find beamed scores difficult to read. The advent of notation software and arrangers who never learned how to write vocal music has made beamed vocal scores commonplace and singers have adapted for the most part.
You can set Finale so that it will not beam by default.
/usermanuals.finalemusic.com/FinaleMac/Content/Finale/Beaming.htm#Preventing_Finale_from_beaming_automatically__Speedy_Entry_
I prefer to let Finale beam as normal and then break the beams on the vocal lines—or did. I don't pay attention to this anymore since few complain about unbeamed vocal lines anymore—and no one listens anyway.
I never understood why Finale uses a plugin to accomplish what every other notation app can do in the Notes menu—but it does:
/usermanuals.finalemusic.com/FinaleMac/Content/Finale/Patterson_Beams_Plug_in.htm
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Vaughan
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| Posted 10/31/2016 9:28 AM (GMT -5) | | MikeHalloran said...
Through the '80s and still practiced by many, the convention is to leave vocal lines unbeamed. I know many older singers who find beamed scores difficult to read. The advent of notation software and arrangers who never learned how to write vocal music has made beamed vocal scores commonplace and singers have adapted for the most part.
When the notation makes it perfectly clear under which notes the syllables fall, why shouldn't singers read rhythmical patterns the way all other musicians do? I can imagine that there are a lot of 'older singers' who don't like being confronted with esoteric matters like relative note lengths, rhythmic subdivisions, etc. What's really difficult to read is a string of equidistant, separately-beamed notes, some of which are 8ths, some of which are 16ths and with the occasional 32nds thrown in. In any case, nowadays many agree (Gould, American Choral Society, etc.) that vocal lines should be beamed to show metric subdivisions.
Vaughan
Finale 3.2 - 25, Sibelius 4 - 7
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MikeHalloran
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| Posted 10/31/2016 12:54 PM (GMT -5) | | Vaughan said...MikeHalloran said...
Through the '80s and still practiced by many, the convention is to leave vocal lines unbeamed. I know many older singers who find beamed scores difficult to read. The advent of notation software and arrangers who never learned how to write vocal music has made beamed vocal scores commonplace and singers have adapted for the most part. When the notation makes it perfectly clear under which notes the syllables fall, why shouldn't singers read rhythmical patterns the way all other musicians do? I can imagine that there are a lot of 'older singers' who don't like being confronted with esoteric matters like relative note lengths, rhythmic subdivisions, etc. What's really difficult to read is a string of equidistant, separately-beamed notes, some of which are 8ths, some of which are 16ths and with the occasional 32nds thrown in. In any case, nowadays many agree (Gould, American Choral Society, etc.) that vocal lines should be beamed to show metric subdivisions.
I can see unbeaming recitative. Now you know how.
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kvehmane
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| Posted 11/1/2016 5:24 AM (GMT -5) | | | Already Alban Berg et al. used the "new" beaming in the '30s! In UE Lulu score (acts 1-2) there is a picture from the manuscript score; it is beamed by the beats, as an instrumental line. | | Back to Top | |
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