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|  N. Grossingink Registered Member

       Date Joined Nov 2002 Total Posts : 3991 | Posted 12/18/2016 8:37 PM (GMT -5) |   | Sorry, but this demo has a lot of problems. I realize you're probably still in the process of "test driving" the software, so you're dealing with Dorico's default output, which at this stage looks pretty raw.
√ The slurs in m1 are not good. Finale's default is much better:

√ The text in m1 is too big. Should be same size as "cantando".
√ The accidentals on all 16th notes are too close to the preceding note or stem. There is no need for this crowding because the music is not that dense.
√ The dynamics are indeed "optically centered" under the corresponding notehead, which sometimes gives the illusion that the dynamic mark is slightly to the right of center.
I know that Dorico has a long way to go, a year or 2, before all features are implemented and algorithms are smoothed out.
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 |  NickG Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2008 Total Posts : 362 | Posted 12/18/2016 6:41 PM (GMT -5) |   | Just wanted to update on the 8va issue. I found that while in note input mode, before entering the note, I can invoke 8va - then all the notes I enter stay put. That speeds thins up. NickG
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  |  NickG Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2008 Total Posts : 362 | Posted 12/18/2016 6:16 PM (GMT -5) |   | OCTO. said...NickG said... Just wanted to show a sample page 1 of the Nocturne by Samuel Barber I'm testing in Dorico. The only adjustments I had to make is a slight adjustment in the slurs in the 1st measure LH. Please disregard the last 2 measures with the base voice rests that are not hidden. This is a bug that they will fix. I have to say I'm very impressed. Please post on www.notat.io Will do. NickG
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 |  NickG Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2008 Total Posts : 362 | Posted 12/18/2016 6:15 PM (GMT -5) |   | I wanted to mention that doing this in Dorico required just about no tweaking (aside from my moving things around to test). I think that I would have done a lot more tweaking in Finale. One oddity I encountered was with 8va. I enter the notes as I would like to see them on the page, select the notes. Invoke 8va. And all the selected note shift down an octave. I have to manually shift them back up. Not too happy with that. NickG
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    |  MikeHalloran Registered Member
        Date Joined Oct 2001 Total Posts : 217 | Posted 12/18/2016 4:42 PM (GMT -5) |   | In addition to he other suggestions, I would slide the 8va a few pixels to the right. It looks very good. Finale 25.1, 2014.5, 2011c, SmartScore X Pro II, Encore 5.07, GPO 5 2010 iMac i7, 32G RAM, 2T SSD, Late 2013 MacBook Air, OS 10.12.1 MOTU Digital Performer 9.12, 9.02, Logic Pro X 10.2.4 | Back to Top | |
   |  Motet Isorhythmic

       Date Joined Dec 2002 Total Posts : 12849 | Posted 12/18/2016 3:32 PM (GMT -5) |   | |
 |  NickG Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2008 Total Posts : 362 | Posted 12/18/2016 3:13 PM (GMT -5) |   | Michel R. E. said... in the original, the mp is much closer to the upper staff, but the cantando is lower (and not touching the barline) Quite right, I was playing with adjustments so I made those adjustments. NickG
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 |  NickG Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2008 Total Posts : 362 | Posted 12/18/2016 3:10 PM (GMT -5) |   | Yes! you are correct in your assessments. Dorico did exactly what you suggested. I changed it purposely to exactly copy how it was produced by my old copy of S.Schirmer. NickG
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   |  NickG Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2008 Total Posts : 362 | Posted 12/18/2016 2:52 PM (GMT -5) |   | Just wanted to show a sample page 1 of the Nocturne by Samuel Barber I'm testing in Dorico. The only adjustments I had to make is a slight adjustment in the slurs in the 1st measure LH. Please disregard the last 2 measures with the base voice rests that are not hidden. This is a bug that they will fix. I have to say I'm very impressed. NickG
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