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Thomas Gunther
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   Posted 12/31/2002 5:31 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Finale is now available for Windows 98/2000/NT/
Me/XP. However Mac users with OSX installed
will have to wait until Summer 2003 for an OSX
optimized version.
This is bad news! Why? First of all because the
huge advantages of the new operating system
(stability, look and feel, memory management,
and the list goes on) are not supported in classic
mode. Also, to run finale in classic mode is more
than inconvenient, if not impossible, because of
certain compatibility problems (MIDI hardware
that requires OMS can not be used under classic,
Finale files can not be printed as PDF files without
additional software, etc).
One might start questioning Codamusic’ serious
commitment to the Mac platform. And this at a time
where Apple’s products are better than ever!
OSX has been introduced more than two years
ago. As a professional musician I am dependent
on software that supports the best available
hardware and operating system. By the way all
other programs I am using have been optimized
for OSX in the meantime (Microsoft Office has
been available for OSX since the beginning of
2002!).
Obviously it can be done!
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   Posted 12/31/2002 5:50 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah, well, it would have been nice if it were done earlier - but it hasn't been, and Sibelius has of course been plugging its OS X capabilities for a while. Nothing like competition to push things along a bit.

At least Coda has made a commitment that Finale 2004 will be carbonized. Gripin' won't make it come any earlier.
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   Posted 12/31/2002 7:59 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
>>Microsoft Office has been available for OSX since the beginning of 2002!<<

If Coda had even a thousandth of the resources that Microsoft has, I'm sure Finale would have been available earlier, too.
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   Posted 12/31/2002 9:01 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
that's very poor comparison

how do you explain the availability of OSX
software from smaller companies than MakeMusic
that started in OS9 that have been OSX compliant
for a while

the bottom line is that the decision to not rewrite
the code started back in v.3.5-4

add to that the decision to not move on OSX until
a short time ago and we're left with this abysmal
situation

MakeMusic has (had) the $$ resources to make
this transition but they chose not to - my question
is WHY ?

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   Posted 12/31/2002 9:41 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
On 12/31/2002 1:01:00 PM, Anonymous wrote:
>that's very poor comparison
>
>how do you explain the
>availability of OSX
>software from smaller
>companies than MakeMusic
>that started in OS9 that have
>been OSX compliant
>for a while

I don't disagree with you here -- I just thought the comparison with Microsoft was inappropriate.

>MakeMusic has (had) the $$
>resources to make
>this transition

How do you know this? Are you privvy to information not available in their financial statements? I'd suggest you review those statements before making such assertions.
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   Posted 12/31/2002 10:53 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
> we're left with this abysmal situation

For me it's about the music, not the
operating system. I'm perfectly happy with
2003a and System 9.2.2.
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   Posted 12/31/2002 11:39 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Me too, William. I'm not minimizing anyone's concerns about Finale and OS X, but I only use 2003a, Photoshop 7.0.1, Illustrator 10.0.3, Acrobat 5.0.5 and PageMaker 7.0.1. Oh yeah, and Toast Titanium. All of these apps work flawlessly in 9.2.2. In fact, the one or two times I booted my dual-processor G4 into OS X (10.1, I think) I wasn't particularly impressed with the OS.

I'm sure that at some point I'll have to switch to OS X, if for no other reason than future versions of my Adobe apps (and I assume Finale) won't run in 9.2.2, but for now, since everything works just fine, I don't care to mess with things.

Al
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   Posted 1/1/2003 6:44 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
To my point of view, the problem is not "only" to have a Finale Mac OS X version, BUT to have "also" :

a full "fixed" version, professional, AND correctly programmed!!!

Finale has more than 10 years, and you can't yet have, for example, serious automatic (slur/no slur, note side/beam side depending of the character of the triplet) triplets, or even serious music spacing with lyrics!!!

I am dubitative...

Franck
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   Posted 1/6/2003 3:13 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"In fact, the one or two times I booted my dual-processor G4 into OS X (10.1, I think) I wasn't particularly impressed with the OS."

You're not impressed with preemptive multitasking and massively improved reliability? MacOS9 is a terrible operating system, OSX is a quantum improvement.

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   Posted 1/6/2003 3:37 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You're not impressed with preemptive multitasking and massively improved reliability? MacOS9 is a terrible operating system, OSX is a quantum improvement.

Spoken like a true Mac user.

Simon:

Let me clarify: On my Mac, I run Finale, some Adobe applications, a couple of font managers, Toast, IE and Outlook Express. That's it. My Mac is only a tool for me; I do nearly no Web browsing on it. I work in my applications and save to various media, and do nearly nothing else.

I'm not knocking OS X at all, and I know my machine has the cojones to run it. But I don't do any of the stuff that OS X seems to be designed for, and I'm very happy with how everything works in 9.2.2.

When it's time to move to OS X—and for me this will only happen when my applications no longer run in 9.2.2—I'll probably re-format the HD, load whatever the current version of OS X is and reinstall all my apps. But since I have everything—desktop, preferences, etc.—tweaked to my satisfaction, I'm in no hurry to start from scratch.

So, for me, it's just a case of "It ain't broke and I ain't gonna fix it." It goes no deeper than that, and if you and thousands of other users are happy with OS X, that's great. But the new OS is not important to me.

Al
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