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  |  traugh Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2002 Total Posts : 32 | Posted 1/12/2004 2:07 PM (GMT -5) |   | (dark..............silent............peers around..............looks for signs of life................"sigh") | Back to Top | |
  |  BobRock Registered Member
        Date Joined Jan 2004 Total Posts : 433 | Posted 1/12/2004 4:25 PM (GMT -5) |   | Hey encephalon, let's get rich:
I do the jokes, you do the simultaneous translating, and than people may find them funny....but seriously, it ain't no fun any more, tell'em at their booth (if they still can afford one).
BTW, OS 9 (though I still love it, even if using only in Classic for THE LAST GREAT CLASSIC APP ---> hey folks at MM, that's a great slogan for you now to use!!!!) really disappeared all of a sudden. Nobody protests not being able to boot it on new Macs.
encephalon said...dtoub said... It has nothing to do with pessimism or optimism. The Mac user base has every right to kvetch that software that was announced, with a release date, several months ago is very late, with no definitive release date. I was initially sympathetic and understanding, but this has now become ludricrous. And I would not hold out for 2005-why should anyone assume that would arrive for X "a few months earlier than usual" and be satisfied with that? I think the joke was based on the idea that the yearly updates usually come out 3-6 months before the calendar year for which the version is named. The hyperbole of the joke was that for all we know 2004 will come out in March or April, and at that point they might as well just call it 2005, so we'd still feel like we have a "current" release since it would be at least another year before the "real 2005" come out. I'll be at NAMM this week, and you can believe that I'll spend some quality time at the MakeMusic booth. encephalon | Back to Top | |
 |  Tom Holtz not THAT Tom Holtz...

       Date Joined Jan 2004 Total Posts : 27 | Posted 1/13/2004 12:18 PM (GMT -5) |   | Did you all remember to vote with your wallets? I'm still using Finale 2001. This company will not get any more of my money until they ship a product I want. I've made it clear I'm eager to spend on an OS X version of Finale. Perhaps the Mac community purchased a few too many copies of Finale 2002 and 2003.
Don't think for a moment that Coda is going to dump Mac. There's too much money to lose. If there wasn't lots of money at stake, the good folks who produce Sibelius wouldn't have busted their butts to get their OS X-native app out the door and into your hands. Remember Coda's hilarious "cross-grade" offer of a few years ago? Did we all take Coda up on that offer and switch to Windows? No, Coda is following the money, just like every other business. It's all about the money.
Why is Coda still developing for OS 9? Money. Are you angry about no OS X version yet? Did you pay for a Finale 2003 upgrade that was OS 9-only? You just gave Coda 99 or 129 more reasons to schlep on OS X software. Oops. | Back to Top | |
 |  B K Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2003 Total Posts : 165 | Posted 1/13/2004 12:35 PM (GMT -5) |   | |
  |  James III Registered Member
        Date Joined Jul 2003 Total Posts : 1 | Posted 1/13/2004 1:03 PM (GMT -5) |   | Howdy all! Here is a reply I recieved this morning from Make Music:
Dear James,
It looks as though the master has been approved, and will be sent off for duplication in the next day or so, so the Finale 2004 for Mac OSX product should start to ship by the beginning of next week. We will be working to get all of our present pre-orders shipped as quickly as possible, so most users should be receiving their shipments in a couple of weeks or so. As long as you have a current email listed on your account, you should receive an email with tracking information when your order ships.
Sincerely,
Norm
Customer Service
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 |  ottowest An apple a day.

       Date Joined Nov 2003 Total Posts : 16 | Posted 1/13/2004 1:14 PM (GMT -5) |   | |
    |  Tom Holtz not THAT Tom Holtz...

       Date Joined Jan 2004 Total Posts : 27 | Posted 1/13/2004 11:30 PM (GMT -5) |   | encephalon said... It's not as simple as that for those of us who collaborate with other Finale users. Built in to the upgrades is non-backward compatibility. As soon as one of my collegues upgrades, we all have to in order to share files. This is a travesty, and I hope it will be solved with the new XML music format. Coda will most likely get my $$ for this upgrade, just so I can have access to all my existing thousands of scores from my non-Classic Mac. But if they want any more of my $$ they better start making the upgrades worthwhile, because I'm still switching to Sibelius after this whole debaucle.
encephalon Lush Music
I, fortunately, don't have to trade files very often, so I've been able to dodge that roadblock. I'll probably need to get Sibelius if too many more of my colleagues make the switch. You're right, built-in non-backward compatibility is a travesty, since paying for upgrades is unavoidable if collaboration is integral to your work.
Unfortunately, it also provides Coda with a little extra dressing for the bottom line when whole groups of Finale users upgrade at the same time instead of just the few who want or need the new features. Money talks, backward compatibility walks. I don't know anything about the new XML music format, but I'm positive that this years' Finale won't open next years' files, whether they're XML or not. I hope I'm wrong.
We'll know soon enough, apparently. Let's see what the gang is saying on the 17th and 18th.
-TH | Back to Top | |
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