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MakeMusic Forum > Public Forums > Finale - Macintosh - FORUM HAS MOVED! > Scanning music & SmartScore Lite | Forum Quick Jump
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  |  sheltie Registered Member
        Date Joined Apr 2004 Total Posts : 6 | Posted 4/4/2004 7:33 PM (GMT -6) |   | Thanks for the quick response. Unfortunatley, I had done all of the things that you suggested before I composed my last posting. The darned thing just doesn't seem to work! I had to do a project over the last few days and have discovered that there are many more quirks to the program than there should be! I hope that this initial release is being worked on and that there's an update soon!!!
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 |  migman Registered Member
        Date Joined Apr 2000 Total Posts : 2432 | Posted 4/5/2004 9:14 AM (GMT -6) |   | This may just be a mistake in terminology, but a true black and white image is 1-bit. A 1-bit word has two levels; zero (black) and one (white). For the sake of those who are curious, a 2-bit word would have four levels, 00 (black), 01 (lighter gray), 10 (darker gray) and 11 (white).
The tiff needs to be black and white, 300dpi, and no compression (LZW). If you have Photoshop, you can confirm or convert the image to this format and try again. If you get it to work, look it over carefully, since it will probably need some editing. | Back to Top | |
 |  sheltie Registered Member
        Date Joined Apr 2004 Total Posts : 6 | Posted 4/5/2004 9:38 AM (GMT -6) |   | All the info on TIFFs is interesting, but it isn't getting me any closer to having Finale accept my scan. I'm using Graphic Converter, and I've saved and re-saved and re-scanned and re-saved a document in every uncompressed format that's available. It just doesn't work! As I said in my last email, there are some other things that need to be fixed as well...for example, if I change some notes in a measure and hit the play commance, the change doesn't take affect. When that happens, I have to restart the program a play the piece (if, of course, it hasn't crashed before I had a chance to save the changes.
Again, I'm hoping that there's an upgrade coming soon to fix these problems. I guess I'll have to call tech support about the scanning problem.
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  |  sheltie Registered Member
        Date Joined Apr 2004 Total Posts : 6 | Posted 4/5/2004 10:09 AM (GMT -6) |   | I've done both...space bar and stop button, and it gets hung up with the old information.
Your image worked. What were your settings (I'll drop it into Graphic Converter, also)?
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 |  migman Registered Member
        Date Joined Apr 2000 Total Posts : 2432 | Posted 4/5/2004 10:12 AM (GMT -6) |   | 1-bit, 300dpi tiff, no LZW compression. I used Photoshop. Your problem may be the Graphic Converter. | Back to Top | |
 |  sheltie Registered Member
        Date Joined Apr 2004 Total Posts : 6 | Posted 4/5/2004 10:20 AM (GMT -6) |   | Well, I'm certainly not going to purchase Photoshop to scan images into Finale (I'm still a bit annoyed that there's not a twain component so that one could scan music directly into the program). Thanks for your help. I'll see if I can get it working with what I have. | Back to Top | |
 |  migman Registered Member
        Date Joined Apr 2000 Total Posts : 2432 | Posted 4/5/2004 11:44 AM (GMT -6) |   | I'm not a programmer, so I don't know whether adding a twain component to Finale would be easy or not, but before they spend time and resources into such a feature, I would like to see them fix the export eps problem. | Back to Top | |
 |  sheltie Registered Member
        Date Joined Apr 2004 Total Posts : 6 | Posted 4/5/2004 11:50 AM (GMT -6) |   | All of the problems, for that matter.
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  |  gwysham Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2001 Total Posts : 44 | Posted 11/16/2004 10:57 PM (GMT -6) |   | After posting what I thought was an off-hand comment, I received this e-mail:
Dear Geoff,
I strongly object to the notice you posted on the Finale Forum saying that we “lost original files on an entire book”. This is not true and you know it. You need to print a correction to this or we will take further action.
William Bay President Mel Bay Publications, Inc.
Actually, I don’t know anything of the sort, but, okay, here’s *my* recollection of the situation. (I’m sorry it’s only recollections, but I searched every old e-mail file I could find, and even dug out my old Performa 6116 to see if they were there, but to no avail.)
Several years ago (within the last 8, since it happened after we moved into this house) I decided I wanted a printout of a tune from the Mist & Stone book *without* all the tab numbers and hammering indications on it. Imagine my surprise when I couldn’t find the files *anywhere*. I was not in the habit of throwing *anything* away (ask my wife), not even electronic files, but they were simply *gone*. I didn’t like the idea of not having any copies of the files I had worked so hard on, so I thought I’d ask the publisher if I could get copies back. It hadn’t been too long by my thinking (3 years or so) since I had sent the original files to Mel Bay on a Zip disk, so I emailed the contact person I had and asked if I could get copies of those files. The person at Mel Bay (I believe it was a woman named Lori Williamson) replied to the effect that “we have no idea where those files are, and in any case the disks would have been used for something else.”
I think it should be obvious why I took that to mean they were lost, and I thought nothing more of it, but promised myself I’d reconstruct the music files, at least, at some point, but when was not an issue, and it didn’t happen until recently when I needed the files for another project. (The reconstruction wasn’t any trouble with the music recognition in the modern version(s) of Finale, and that was really the whole point of my original posting.)
I don’t have any solid evidence to support this, but my best guess is that Mel Bay had not completely bought into the electronic way of doing things in 1993, and once they had camera-ready copy, they simply discarded the original files. This is certainly their prerogative, but is so completely counter to my own mindset that it never would have occured to me.
Long story, but I had my reasons for believing as I did. Short version is, mentioning Mel Bay by name (even the obvious hint of M** B**) was unkind and unnecessary, and I do apologize for causing Mr. Bay any distress. I don’t believe I’ll ever understand his company’s way of thinking, but that just makes us even!
Geoff (I may not be organized, but I *know* that paper’s in this pile *somewhere*!)Somebody said...
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