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JReed
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  		   Posted 11/13/2004 10:11 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Anybody have any of these problems (which the Finale tech people claim they have NEVER seen - yeh, right):

1. Playback loses reverb, etc. when started, stopped and started again.
2. Playback glisses very inconsistent plus wrong notes sounding.
3. Playback sounds noise just before play.
4. Playback freezes sometimes and must be stopped and restarted.
5. Just crashed on playback - had to restart application.
6. On one piece - can't playback with scroll - quits every time.
7. Overall response in trying to nudge items has slowed to a crawl.
8. Adjusting Line Spacing within Text expression Designer dialog erratic. Had to make adjustment in dialog - see result in dialog that didn't match result on document - then go back to dialog - back to document - 6 times until line spacing was as I wanted. (does anyone test this stuff???)
9. Expression jumped to middle of multi-measure rest after Creating Multi-measure rests when it was at start.
10. I wrote a script to globally replace the font TimesNewRomanPS with Times. This worked, but not in the Fonts prefs of the Document Options, thus, tuplets (for example) stayed in the old font.
11. More playback problems - the playback chocked and 1 second later, when it recovered, the upper voices were out of sync with the lower voices.
12. Editing the values in the Edit Systems Margins dialog box loses its interactivity if you have "Update all windows" unchecked in Options.
13. Dragging a smart shape past the end of a line in Page view doesn't continue on next system for all smart shapes.
14. Playback suddenly jumps to the first page but continues to playback in the background (bizarre).

Just so you know, I have a dual 1.42G Mac with 2G RAM and nothing else very special going on extension wise. freaked
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  		   Posted 11/13/2004 10:23 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Which version of Finale?

Bill
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  		   Posted 11/13/2004 11:29 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think you meant your thumb to point the other way.
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  		   Posted 11/13/2004 12:01 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Or maybe JReed was being sarcastic?
I just got the update 2005a and trying it out on an almost-ready chart (big band with not too much going on). Any thing I stumble across will let y'all know.
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  		   Posted 11/13/2004 12:09 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes, I have your problem #3." Plays sounds noise just before play". I had it on Finale 2004 and now with Finale 2005. It is slightly annoying, but since it doesn't show up on the printed page I've tried to ignore it. I would like a solution. Come to think of it I've had many of these problems, my most recent was not having the sound of previous Instruments play in the background while I was trying to add another Instrumental part against it. I had to play around with it to get it to work properly. This happens frequently.

Post Edited (Treble) : 11/13/2004 4:15:26 PM GMT

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  		   Posted 11/15/2004 6:32 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have been having a similar problem - playback 'hangs' ie all notes start sustaining until there is a bloody great cluster chord, and I have to stop and start again. This happens about 9 times out of 10 and is driving me nuts!! It's an orchestral score with about 32 staves, but surely this should not be a problem with a programme designed for this sort of thing?? Any clues?
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  		   Posted 11/15/2004 6:34 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sorry - forgot to add - I'm running Finale 2005a on Mac OS X 10.2.8

Post Edited (Gareth Farr) : 11/15/2004 11:18:40 PM GMT

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  		   Posted 11/15/2004 7:18 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
PS Or it just sticks on one chord, but the playback cursor (the green line) keeps on going as if it were playing back properly.
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  		   Posted 11/16/2004 2:21 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah I have the problem where the playback will get out of sync and some notes will go on playing past their part in the score. It seems to be more frequent in 2005a
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  		   Posted 11/16/2004 1:18 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have had all of these playback problems at one time or another. Can't speak to the others yet. fortunately.

The reverb problem is MUCH worse on the Windows side, haven't experienced it on the Mac side...

My biggest peeve right now is that as my piece gets longer (orchestra piece using lots of staves and every available channel), playback is taking FOREVER to give me my computer back if I hit the stop button. Last count around 25 seconds.... I get that (inccreasingly annoying) rotating colourful ball... if I quit and re-open the document it is OK for a couple of playbacks, but soon we are back to a 25 second wait again. This takes up a lot of time!!!

I haven't downloaded the 2005a updater yet, but it sounds as if I shouldn't bother. Any helfpul insights?

Simon Andrews
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  		   Posted 11/16/2004 3:28 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well the updater certainly doesn't make it any better! Yes, I get the 25 sec rotating colourful ball too, and boy is it annoying!
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  		   Posted 11/17/2004 4:47 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have a problem with playback, not one of yours. I am able to hear it fine the first time that I hit play, then after I've added more music it only plays what I had written at first and ignores the new music.
Now, the new problem, I have so much reverb that I can't even make out the notes that I've written....
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  		   Posted 11/17/2004 9:07 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Somebody said...
I have a problem with playback, not one of yours. I am able to hear it fine the first time that I hit play, then after I've added more music it only plays what I had written at first and ignores the new music.


Not sure if this is your answer, but if you hit puase Finale will not play the new notes. You will have to hit stop and then play once again to hear the new pitches.

Like most things in Finale, playback is just slow here. I am still confused why when you hit stop it takes several seconds for the file to stop. Maybe it is a like a car and has momentum moving forward!
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  		   Posted 11/17/2004 11:20 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think at this point we have to specify whether Human Playback is being used, eke compare the effect when it is disabled.

It's clear the guy who developed it is keen on getting as much feedback as possible and making things as right as he can as soon as he can.

Let's take advantage of that. It's so rare.

(Bonjour, Robert!)
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  		   Posted 11/18/2004 12:44 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have had just about all the playback issues you described...I also noticed I can scroll up and down during playback sometimes and the green line just breaks into a million pieces as the playback scrolling continues on its merry little way...

The reverb/dynamic thing is a real pain in the butt...sometimes the main melody gets reduced and the accompaniment gets stupid loud...

Human playback must be in development stages. There are certainly many things I like about it, but it hanging my system up while it tries to stop for 20-30 seconds sure does slow production down...not to mention interrupting that creative moment...

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  		   Posted 12/9/2004 1:36 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm working with 2005a on a 1.8DP G5 and I'm still having most of the playback problems listed here. Finale regularly crashes when I try to play files back with Human Playback. Often the screen will return to the first page after playing pages 1 and 2, although the playback continues as normal. My files are not especially lengthy and I'm working with 15 staves at the moment.
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  		   Posted 12/9/2004 8:44 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
My experience is that Page View playback returns to p.1 when Update Layout is needed.
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  		   Posted 4/25/2005 8:48 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Has anybody found a solution for any of these problems? I too have been plauged by shoddy playback in 2005b. I am using a dual800MHZ G4 with OS 10.3.8(9) with 768MB RAM. The Finale tech told me that my problem was associated with my machine and not a problem with Finale. Based on what I have read here that is not true (unless you all are using my machine). I thought maybe it was due to a large / complex file, but it happens on every file I have, even new ones I create. It happens with Human Playback on or off, wether I am using a playback file or playing from the active document makes no diference. Sometimes I'll get several hours of trouble-free playback, other times I can't get through a few bars without it hanging. The problems even transfer if I create an audio file.

Very Frustrated.

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