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Michel R. E.
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   Posted 10/30/2015 1:42 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank-you Charles, I have sent you the file via email.


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   Posted 10/31/2015 1:03 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Looking through my files, I discovered one that has instructions for the 2-staff multimeasure rest as described by Zuill in 2005. I used it in 2009 with Finale 2010 for a 4-hand piano piece. The advantage of these file is that it has the second multimeasure bar for the upper staff already created and positioned.

I am enclosing Zuill's file from Finale 2005 and one with slightly modified instructions I made for myself that I only have in Finale 2014 format (plus the XML equivalent for convenience of older versions).


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   Posted 10/31/2015 12:27 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If it's part of a bigger piece (more parts) you'd have to extract the part, though.


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   Posted 11/2/2015 11:36 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Interested Forum members,
 
Please find attached version 2.0 of my JW Lua script to process double staff MMRs.  I have revamped the script to remove all unnecessary dialog boxes.  The way the script works now is to process all double staff MMRs found in the selected region of the score/part.  If no region is selected, the script will process all double staff MMRs found in the score/part.  In order to qualify for processing, the selected portion of a found MMR must have two and only two visible staves.  Normally a score will not have any MMRs that qualify, since an MMR applies to the complete measure stack when created, and any notes found in any measures of the stack will preclude those measures from inclusion in the MMR.  Rarely will all the instruments in the score have full measures of rest at the same time.  Parts are normally where qualified MMRs will be found.  If a score/part does have an MMR where there are more than two visible staves, you can repeatedly select the portion of the MMR that contains any two adjacent visible staves and rerun the script on that selection to get double staffed processed MMRs for the complete MMR measure stack.
 
Again, any feedback is welcomed.  I have tested the script as best I could for as many scenarios as I could imagine.  I'm sure there must be some configuration out there where the script will misbehave.  Let me know if it doesn't work, or you don't understand what it is doing, or how to work it.
 
Enjoy! smilewinkgrin
 
[PS]  Just replace the old script with the new one in whatever place you put it.

[PPS]  I tried to implement all the fine suggestions I received from the various posters.


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   Posted 11/2/2015 11:36 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Charles, any news on an updated file for JW Lua?


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   Posted 11/2/2015 11:42 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Michel,

I'm not sure what you mean, but the latest JW Lua version available at this time is Beta 0.42 for Windows and Beta 0.41 for Mac.


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   Posted 11/2/2015 12:17 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Charles Lawrence said...
Michel,

I'm not sure what you mean, but the latest JW Lua version available at this time is Beta 0.42 for Windows and Beta 0.41 for Mac.


aha, we posted simultaneously... I meant your wonderful script for JW Lua.
I didn't see that you had updated it because you did so as I was asking the question!


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   Posted 11/2/2015 12:20 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Fantastic!
it works beautifully so far... although I'm pretty sure I'll find SOMETHING with which to break it!
smilewinkgrin

Charles Lawrence said...
Interested Forum members,


Please find attached version 2.0 of my JW Lua script to process double staff MMRs. I have revamped the script to remove all unnecessary dialog boxes. The way the script works now is to process all double staff MMRs found in the selected region of the score/part. If no region is selected, the script will process all double staff MMRs found in the score/part. In order to qualify for processing, the selected portion of a found MMR must have two and only two visible staves. Normally a score will not have any MMRs that qualify, since an MMR applies to the complete measure stack when created, and any notes found in any measures of the stack will preclude those measures from inclusion in the MMR. Rarely will all the instruments in the score have full measures of rest at the same time. Parts are normally where qualified MMRs will be found. If a score/part does have an MMR where there are more than two visible staves, you can repeatedly select the portion of the MMR that contains any two adjacent visible staves and rerun the script on that selection to get double staffed processed MMRs for the complete MMR measure stack.



Again, any feedback is welcomed. I have tested the script as best I could for as many scenarios as I could imagine. I'm sure there must be some configuration out there where the script will misbehave. Let me know if it doesn't work, or you don't understand what it is doing, or how to work it.



Enjoy! smilewinkgrin



[PS] Just replace the old script with the new one in whatever place you put it.
[PPS] I tried to implement all the fine suggestions I received from the various posters.


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   Posted 11/2/2015 12:21 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you, Charles. I look forward to using it.


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   Posted 11/2/2015 12:29 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Charles, what wonderful job! Runs like a watch. No fuss or muss, just gets the job done. Hopefully Finale users will take notice and bring their double-staffed parts up to standard.

And it will not only do parts with two or more double-staffed instruments or groups, but also triple, quintuple, etc.-staffed by creating two or more overlapping groups!

This really deserves to be at the very least a regular plug-in or better, part of Finale proper, MM.


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   Posted 11/2/2015 12:56 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Thanks John.

I have put a lot of time and effort into this.  You inspired me to set out on this venture.  Like Michel said, somebody will no doubt come up with a situation that breaks it, or that I have not considered in the design.

A couple of things that might need mentioning for those who have not followed the thread.

The script will accommodate any re-sizing of the white space between the staves, as well as changing the line spacing of either/both staves, all within reason, of course.   You can also re-order the staves.  These operations should be done before running the script.  Since the number is now an expression, any changes done after running the script, may require that the expression be manually repositioned.  The font used for the number is always Maestro/24/plain and therefore may not be appropriate if the spacing of the page is small, like on a large full orchestra score.  It's on my to do list to see if something can be done in this case.  Also, if the MMR is set to display a range, it might collide.  No provision has been made to avoid collisions of the number expression with any other objects in the whitespace.  These adjustments will need to be done manually. 


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   Posted 5/8/2016 12:11 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi, Charles,

I found your Lua script just recently and I am overwhelmed what you did here!

Trying to get into Lua scripting for Finale, too, I thought, I might expand on your script a bit and wonder if that would be ok with you.
My ideas are to check if a MMR number already exists in the Expression Tools and use that one instead of always creating new entries. Also, before running the script, if should delete any old MMRs and then apply the new ones, so only one MMR expression item is placed onto the staves... And maybe even try to implement a text definition dialog...

But that is only theory...

Let me know if you wish that I keep my fingers from it. or if you intend to publish a new version, which probably inherits the features already...

However... thanks a lot!
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   Posted 5/8/2016 4:09 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Robert,

The script is not proprietary, so feel free to modify it for improvements you may have in mind.  Just include comments in the Plug-in Definition area and elsewhere in the body of the script to document what you do and give yourself credit.  I used ideas from several forum members when developing the script in the first place.

Good luck.  JW Lua is not easy and has a steep learning curve.


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   Posted 5/9/2016 12:54 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I hide them all by setting vertical offset to -1000 and re-making all the MM rests. I then create an expression category with the appropriate font, to show above the bottom staff and centred between the bar lines. If you use maestro font then the character's base line is in the middle of the number and is easily aligned with the centre of the piano/harp etc brace.


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