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Posted By : BrassOrigins - 6/14/2015 11:41 AM
I am going to teach Ocarina classes for children 5-9 and 10+.
Teaching material is abysmal, either wrong instruments or wrong key or wrong language.
Hence I've decided to write the music I need/want myself.

Problem being that you get either pure "tab language" or standard notation. I want standard notation with the ocarina tabs under each system.
Is there a plug-in or similar available???

To give a better picture of what I mean I attach an pure tabs version and what I want, music and fingering.

Thanks for suggestions

Jule


The problem with common sense is, it's not very common.


Posted By : Peter Thomsen - 6/14/2015 12:58 PM
I could be wrong here, but As Far As I Know, there is no plug-in available for Ocarina notation.

I would not call this notation “tab” notation, but rather “fingering diagrams”.

You could create a font with all the fingering diagrams.

Or you could create the symbols in the Shape Designer.
This is not as hard to do as you might think:
In the Shape Designer, create one shape that has all the items, i. e. the full symbol with all holes covered.
To create one of the other symbols, duplicate the “full” shape, and edit the duplicate by removing items.

You can attach the fingering diagrams as expressions.

If two measures are identical, copy one measure to the other, including the expressions with the fingering diagrams.

Peter


Mac Finale, 2011c, 2012c & 2014d, Dolet 6.4 plug-in, Mac OS X 10.9.5, iMac Intel Core i7, 2.93 GHz, 16 GB RAM


Posted By : BrassOrigins - 6/14/2015 2:50 PM
Thanks for the reply.
Good idea.
I'm a bit of a computer illiterate but I can only try....
Personally I would not call these things tabs, but diseases....
only, ocarina players call them tabs and are completely hooked on them.
They manage to do complete Vivaldi concertos in tabs.....*shudder*

Jule


The problem with common sense is, it's not very common.


Posted By : Peter Thomsen - 6/14/2015 3:27 PM
Jule,

Are you using Finale 2014? - or 2012? - or 2011? - 2010? - 2009?

Peter


Mac Finale, 2011c, 2012c & 2014d, Dolet 6.4 plug-in, Mac OS X 10.9.5, iMac Intel Core i7, 2.93 GHz, 16 GB RAM


Posted By : Jolora - 6/15/2015 3:48 AM
Look at this site for some inexpensive Ocarina fonts. If you used this route, you could either, as has been suggested, create expressions, or, you could make an entry into the Lyrics window and auto-assign them. Not sure this second idea would save you time in the long run, though..

Here is the site: samuel.portertech.org/?cat=9

Good luck


Joe

Finale v1 through 2012c and now, finally, 2014d.
JW Plugins
TG Tools (Full)
Garritan GPO 4
Garritan COMB 2
Garritan JABB 3
Anvil Studio 2015 midi editor
Intel i7-4771 with 32GB RAM
Windows 8.1 64-bit


Posted By : BrassOrigins - 6/15/2015 5:26 AM
Peter Thomsen said...
Jule,

Are you using Finale 2014? - or 2012? - or 2011? - 2010? - 2009?

Peter


At the moment it's still 2009 (incl. the horrible white noise which means I can only use Midi....*sigh*), we are about to move to Ireland.
Once we've settled in I'll upgrad to 2014. Just a matter of weeks, now.
Why? Is there a tab creating feature I'll be able to use?

Thanks

Jule


The problem with common sense is, it's not very common.


Posted By : BrassOrigins - 6/15/2015 5:31 AM
Jolora said...
Look at this site for some inexpensive Ocarina fonts. If you used this route, you could either, as has been suggested, create expressions, or, you could make an entry into the Lyrics window and auto-assign them. Not sure this second idea would save you time in the long run, though..

Here is the site: samuel.portertech.org/?cat=9

Good luck


Thanks for the link.
I am a registered user to the STL forum & customer options.
I've tried their fonts and they are really horrible to use with standard music.
I even thought of using my Publisher software and combine
Finale with the STL fonts in a kind of picture collage (that's how desperate I am ;) )

Jule


The problem with common sense is, it's not very common.


Posted By : BrassOrigins - 6/15/2015 6:40 AM
Hey guys, got it!!!!!!
Shape designer is just the thing!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for your help

Jule


The problem with common sense is, it's not very common.


Posted By : Jolora - 6/15/2015 6:29 PM
BrassOrigins said...
Thanks for the link.
I am a registered user to the STL forum & customer options.
I've tried their fonts and they are really horrible to use with standard music.
I even thought of using my Publisher software and combine
Finale with the STL fonts in a kind of picture collage (that's how desperate I am ;) )

Jule


Well, shoot! I was hoping you'd try the lyrics thing and tell me how it came out. h well.


Joe

Finale v1 through 2012c and now, finally, 2014d.
JW Plugins
TG Tools (Full)
Garritan GPO 4
Garritan COMB 2
Garritan JABB 3
Anvil Studio 2015 midi editor
Intel i7-4771 with 32GB RAM
Windows 8.1 64-bit