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Posted By : Dramaking44 - 9/26/2007 1:51 PM
Hi all,
 
My first post on this forum... Woo!!
 
I am a keen Ukulele player and I frequently compose songs using Tablature.
 
As you may know, a Ukulele's string positioning is diffent to that of a Guitars's or a a Bass Guitar's.
 
A Ukulele has 4 strings which ae tuned to G,C,E,A
 
So TAB looks like:
 
A---2---|
E---0---|
C---0---|
G---0---|    ETC.
 
The only TAB style's suplied on Notepad are the Guitar and Bass Guitar ones.
 
Is there anyway of changing the Bass Guitar's TAB String Notation to the Ukulele's?
 
Thanks,
DK444
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted By : Peter Thomsen - 9/26/2007 2:31 PM
With the full Finale you can change the Bass Guitar's TAB String Notation to the Ukulele's.
But with NotePad you can't modify the TAB staff attributes in an already existing document.


With NotePad you will have to create a new document.
But first you must tell the Setup Wizard, how to handle Ukulele:


1. In the Folder Component Files, open the text file "instrument.txt", and add the following to the section with fretted instruments (the fretted instruments are in the middle of the text file):

[INS:Ukulele]
Name = Ukulele
Abbr = Uk.
useKeySigs = 1
Transposition = 0
StaffType = standard
Clef = treble
Patch = 24

[INS:Ukulele TAB]
DisplayName = Ukulele [TAB]
Name = Ukulele
Abbr = Uk.
useKeySigs = 1
Transposition = 0
StaffType = tab
Clef = tab1
FretInst = Ukulele
Patch = 24


2. Next, scroll down to the instrument groups.
In the group
[GRP:Frets],
add this:

Ukulele = x
Ukulele TAB = x


3. Finally, scroll down to the instrument order list.
In the order list
[ORD:Orchestral],
add this:

Ukulele = x
Ukulele TAB = x

e. g. between Dulcimer and Sitar.


The next time you create a new document, Ukulele and Ukulele (TAB) will be available in the wizard.

The attached file shows an example.


Peter


Mac Finale 2006d, 2007c & 2008, Dolet 3.5 plug-in, Mac OS X 10.4.10, iMac Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.16 GHz, 2 GB RAM


Posted By : Mike Rosen - 9/26/2007 10:35 PM
Peter,
That's great. I've saved it myself. But I have a question: Where did you set up the TAB notes in your instructions? Or, does Finale just know that if you say Uke, it knows the notes already?


Mike Rosen
 
WebLackey for the Seattle SeaChordsmen
 
PrintMusic 2006 on the PC: Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
Nightingale on the Ol' Macintosh
 
Favorite reference: Essential Dictionary of Music Notation, Gerou & Lusk, 1996
 
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Posted By : Peter Thomsen - 9/27/2007 1:00 AM
Mike Rosen said...
Peter,
That's great. I've saved it myself. But I have a question: Where did you set up the TAB notes in your instructions? Or, does Finale just know that if you say Uke, it knows the notes already?

Mike,

The Ukulele tuning is stored in the Default File (Maestro Font Default.FTM).
I'm not sure you can access/edit it in PrintMusic.
In Finale you can (of course):

Staff Tool.

Double-click the staff you want as TAB staff. The dialog box Staff Attributes appears.

In the pop up menu "Notation Style:", choose "Tablature", and click the button "Select...". The dialog box Tablature Staff Attributes appears.

If the document was created from Meastro Font Default.FTM, you can find the Ukulele in the pop up menu "Instrument:".
If the document was created as a "Document Without Libraries", you have to define the Ukulele tuning, by clicking the button "Edit Instruments...".

Peter


Mac Finale 2006d, 2007c & 2008, Dolet 3.5 plug-in, Mac OS X 10.4.10, iMac Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.16 GHz, 2 GB RAM


Posted By : Mike Rosen - 9/27/2007 10:22 AM
Nope, not in PM. So I'm glad I saved yours!
Thanks.


Mike Rosen
 
WebLackey for the Seattle SeaChordsmen
 
PrintMusic 2006 on the PC: Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
Nightingale on the Ol' Macintosh
 
Favorite reference: Essential Dictionary of Music Notation, Gerou & Lusk, 1996
 
"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker."


Posted By : Dramaking44 - 9/27/2007 10:37 AM
Hey,

I dont see no [GRP: Frets]???

for now, i have put it in the [GRP: Plucked Strings]

Please advise...

Posted By : Peter Thomsen - 9/27/2007 11:55 AM
Dramaking44,

You could add the [GRP: Frets] to the text file" instrument.txt", enter some fretted instruments in the group, and see if the new group shows up in NotePad's Setup Wizard.

Peter


Mac Finale 2006d, 2007c & 2008, Dolet 3.5 plug-in, Mac OS X 10.4.10, iMac Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.16 GHz, 2 GB RAM


Posted By : Zuill - 9/27/2007 1:41 PM
Just wondering. Not about Tab, but about chord grids. Has Finale fixed the erroneous Uke grid setup? Or does it still use the top 4 strings of the standard guitar. A bit off topic, but somewhat related.

Zuill


"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
 
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Posted By : Peter Thomsen - 9/27/2007 4:03 PM
That's not fixed in 2008.
Even if you define the TAB staff for a G - C - E - A Ukulele, the chord fretboard displays the chord in D - G - B - E tuning.

Peter


Mac Finale 2006d, 2007c & 2008, Dolet 3.5 plug-in, Mac OS X 10.4.10, iMac Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.16 GHz, 2 GB RAM


Posted By : Mike Rosen - 9/27/2007 8:05 PM
Peter Thomsen said...
That's not fixed in 2008.
Even if you define the TAB staff for a G - C - E - A Ukulele, the chord fretboard displays the chord in D - G - B - E tuning.

Peter

Which is the correct tuning for the baritone uke! Soprano, tenor, and concert ukes use the Good Cats Eat Ants tuning.


Mike Rosen
 
WebLackey for the Seattle SeaChordsmen
 
PrintMusic 2006 on the PC: Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
Nightingale on the Ol' Macintosh
 
Favorite reference: Essential Dictionary of Music Notation, Gerou & Lusk, 1996
 
"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker."


Posted By : Mike Rosen - 9/27/2007 8:11 PM
A while back, someone (Zuill or Peter, maybe?) set up a uke leadsheet with the correct GCEA chord diagrams. I still have it. Could it be combined with Peter's Uke/TAB template, which now shows guitar chords?


Mike Rosen
 
WebLackey for the Seattle SeaChordsmen
 
PrintMusic 2006 on the PC: Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
Nightingale on the Ol' Macintosh
 
Favorite reference: Essential Dictionary of Music Notation, Gerou & Lusk, 1996
 
"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker."


Posted By : Peter Thomsen - 9/28/2007 1:04 AM
Perhaps you mean this file?

Peter


Mac Finale 2006d, 2007c & 2008, Dolet 3.5 plug-in, Mac OS X 10.4.10, iMac Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.16 GHz, 2 GB RAM


Posted By : Mike Rosen - 9/28/2007 10:32 AM
Peter Thomsen said...
Perhaps you mean this file?

Peter

No, this is the one. Could it be combined with your TAB doc? I realize that you probably wouldn't use both the chords and TAB at the same time, but the option would be there.


Mike Rosen
 
WebLackey for the Seattle SeaChordsmen
 
PrintMusic 2006 on the PC: Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
Nightingale on the Ol' Macintosh
 
Favorite reference: Essential Dictionary of Music Notation, Gerou & Lusk, 1996
 
"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker."


Posted By : Mike Rosen - 9/28/2007 10:37 AM
I found this one in my folders, too. Maybe I used this one to set up the leadsheet.


Mike Rosen
 
WebLackey for the Seattle SeaChordsmen
 
PrintMusic 2006 on the PC: Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
Nightingale on the Ol' Macintosh
 
Favorite reference: Essential Dictionary of Music Notation, Gerou & Lusk, 1996
 
"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker."


Posted By : Peter Thomsen - 9/28/2007 4:55 PM
Mike Rosen said...
Peter Thomsen said...

Perhaps you mean this file?

Peter

No, this is the one. Could it be combined with your TAB doc? I realize that you probably wouldn't use both the chords and TAB at the same time, but the option would be there.

I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean like this?

Peter


Mac Finale 2006d, 2007c & 2008, Dolet 3.5 plug-in, Mac OS X 10.4.10, iMac Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.16 GHz, 2 GB RAM


Posted By : Mike Rosen - 9/28/2007 6:28 PM
That's it perfectly, Peter. Many thanks.


Mike Rosen
 
WebLackey for the Seattle SeaChordsmen
 
PrintMusic 2006 on the PC: Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.
Nightingale on the Ol' Macintosh
 
Favorite reference: Essential Dictionary of Music Notation, Gerou & Lusk, 1996
 
"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker."