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Posted By : Jolora - 12/23/2016 7:10 PM
Which of these would you prefer? "A" is Finale's setting. and "B" is a custom setting.


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Posted By : Michel R. E. - 12/23/2016 7:15 PM
I'd prefer another Christmas carol... but for the engraving, my preference is for A.


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Posted By : Ron. - 12/23/2016 7:19 PM
A, without a doubt. Why flip the stems to the wrong direction, as in B?


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Posted By : Motet - 12/23/2016 8:15 PM
Agreed. Not sure why you'd want to do B.


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Posted By : Mike Rosen - 12/23/2016 9:19 PM
Another A vote.



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Posted By : DCrocker - 12/24/2016 12:12 AM
A.


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Posted By : Zuill - 12/24/2016 2:15 AM
I think there might have been concern about the look of tying the stems up notes to the stems down notes. That's all I can think of.

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Posted By : Jolora - 12/24/2016 2:31 AM
Michel R. E. said...
I'd prefer another Christmas carol... but for the engraving, my preference is for A.


Would you actually tell that to a client who'd asked for an arrangement/??

Motet said...
Agreed. Not sure why you'd want to do B.


B preserves the delineation of the two lines/voices. It is more obvious in the entire arrangement.

Zuill said...
I think there might have been concern about the look of tying the stems up notes to the stems down notes. That's all I can think of.

Zuill


This was a secondary consideration. How do you feel about this? It looks odd to me, and is, in fact, what made me post the question in the first place.

FYIL this is an arrangement for handbells (though the part is labeled "Piano" in the example.


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Posted By : Zuill - 12/24/2016 2:55 AM
If there was a rest in Layer 1 in those measures (the downstem notes being Layer 2), then it would have made more sense.

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Posted By : Motet - 12/24/2016 3:04 AM
Pianists are used to sorting out lines regardless of stems or even staves.


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Posted By : Jolora - 12/24/2016 3:08 AM
Zuill said...
If there was a rest in Layer 1 in those measures (the downstem notes being Layer 2), then it would have made more sense.

Zuill


I agree with you here, Zuill. But I think I will use option B, though, given the audience. This is for a community handbell choir comprised of mostly non-musicians. Less "stuff" on the page seems easier for them to digest.

But I am getting that the consensus is A for formal publication.


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Posted By : Vaughan - 12/24/2016 6:01 AM
Definitely A, or B but with a whole rest in the top voice and stems AND slurs flipped downwards, IOW, the Finale default. As it is, B simply looks wrong.


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Posted By : Derrek - 12/24/2016 1:04 PM
Since Handbell arrangements are played by the bell rather than by the voice line (and since the notes from the start are part of the melody, I'd go with A. Why have players wonder why the stems look odd when they can just play the notes?

(I've arranged for Handbells in the past.)


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Posted By : Motet - 12/24/2016 1:36 PM
Ah, I missed that it was for handbells. Yes, handbells are the ultimate opposite of counterpoint!


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Posted By : Peter Thomsen - 12/24/2016 6:12 PM
Vaughan said...
Definitely A, or B but with a whole rest in the top voice and stems AND slurs flipped downwards, IOW, the Finale default. As it is, B simply looks wrong.

I see no slurs in the example.
Do you perhaps mean ties?

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Posted By : Vaughan - 12/25/2016 5:37 PM
I did indeed mean ties. Sorry, although this would go for slurs, as well (if there were any)!


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