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Posted By : winknotes - 12/28/2016 3:01 PM
I'm working on a suite that consists of 3 "movements" and one could optionally end the second movement or play it standalone, or go straight into the last movement. Here's a picture of how it's currently notated based on some other publications, but I've also seen where the optional ending measure has a black background and noteheads and lines are white. Is there a way to do that in Finale?

Steve Winkler

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Posted By : Mike Rosen - 12/28/2016 6:52 PM
I was going to say no, but...

I entered the notes, and took a screenshot of the area. Using Preview on the Mac, I inverted the colors, and pasted it back in as a graphic.

It's certainly not perfect, but I think it's cool! I suspect that people smarter than me will come up with a better way.

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Posted By : N. Grossingink - 12/28/2016 7:31 PM
I've never seen that, nor would I want to. The way it's usually done is by using ending brackets, with appropriate labels. You have to use a Staff Style to hide the repeat barlines and use the Repeat Tool to disable playback for them.


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Post Edited (N. Grossingink) : 12/28/2016 7:01:17 PM (GMT-6)

Posted By : winknotes - 12/28/2016 10:42 PM
Ok thank you both. You're probably right N. Grossingink that it's not proper but I have seen it on occasion.

Steve Winkler

Finale 2009c, 2011b, 2012c, 25.2
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

Posted By : Ron. - 12/28/2016 11:29 PM
By the way, it's "separate," not "seperate." Think "ar."

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Posted By : winknotes - 12/29/2016 7:54 AM
Ah thank you Ron. I guess it's true that it's difficult to proofread one's own work.

Steve Winkler

Finale 2009c, 2011b, 2012c, 25.2
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

Posted By : Derrek - 12/29/2016 2:05 PM
I've just used a cut symbol in the few instances I've encountered the situation.

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Posted By : Motet - 12/29/2016 3:13 PM
I would do what N. does, but I would put the "End" ending first.

The opera Hansel and Gretel has options to end Act I for an intermission or to segue into the entr'acte to join the first two acts. The publisher handles this thus:

If you look on IMSLP, though, you'll see someone went to the trouble to white-out the ending they weren't using, so it's perhaps not optimal. I would use the above layout, but make "A" and "B" endings.

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Post Edited (Motet) : 12/29/2016 2:55:30 PM (GMT-6)