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Posted By : Rudy B - 11/4/2013 7:13 PM
I've been using Finale 2014 some today and so far I'm really liking the work that's been done on it!

For some reason, though, I'm not able to enter a negative number in the Measure Attributes dialog for the Extra space at beginning or end of measure. I can enter negative numbers in the Document Options > Notes and Rests > Spacing Before and After music area and they enter fine. It also works great in Finale 2011. Is this a bug or is there a setting somewhere I'm not seeing?


Rudy Bueckert
Rudy's Music & Printing

Finale 2014, Finale 2011c (have used 2006-2014)
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MacBook Pro 17-in, 2.83Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM
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Posted By : Zuill - 11/4/2013 8:44 PM
Windows handles this fine.

Zuill


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Posted By : Rudy B - 11/4/2013 8:46 PM
So it must just be Mac, or my install of it.


Rudy Bueckert
Rudy's Music & Printing

Finale 2014, Finale 2011c (have used 2006-2014)
MacBook Pro Retina 15-in, 2.6Ghz Crystalwell, 16GB RAM (coming soon)
MacBook Pro 17-in, 2.83Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM
Mac OS X 10.9 | Windows 8 Pro 64-bit (Parallels)


Posted By : Vaughan - 11/4/2013 11:28 PM
I can confirm this. The Mac version won't let you enter a minus sign in the field. That's a pity for those moments when Finale adds too much space to the end of a measure.


Vaughan

Finale 3.2 - 2012c, Sibelius 4 - 7
Tobias Giesen's plugins, full version, Robert Patterson plugins, Dolet 6 plugin
MacOS 10.8
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Kontakt 4.2

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Posted By : Vaughan - 11/4/2013 11:34 PM
If there's already a negative number in one of these fields, Finale won't let you edit it at all. The only choice you have is to deselect it and leave the window. When you return, the number in the field will be zero and a [positive] number can be entered.


Vaughan

Finale 3.2 - 2012c, Sibelius 4 - 7
Tobias Giesen's plugins, full version, Robert Patterson plugins, Dolet 6 plugin
MacOS 10.8
MacPro 6GB, MacBookPro (2011) 8GB
Kontakt 4.2

Amsterdam


Posted By : Zuill - 11/5/2013 12:17 AM
What happens if you drag the handles? Are you able to drag them past the barline?

Zuill

P.S.: Never mind. That can't be done. The only way to get them past the barline is in the dialogue box.

Zuill


"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
 
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed) 2012c, with some bug fixes
Favorite Forum quote: "Please, everybody, IGNORE THE TROLL!"

Post Edited (Zuill) : 11/4/2013 10:20:33 PM (GMT-6)


Posted By : SF - 11/5/2013 1:15 AM
This is a huge deal breaker for a lot of the work I do. Ugghh.


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Posted By : Jari Williamsson - 11/5/2013 5:27 AM
SF said...
This is a huge deal breaker for a lot of the work I do. Ugghh.


Make sure MM gets to know about it. Here's a JW Lua script that you can use as a replacement until it's fixed, if you want. The limitation is that you need to enter both values and that the measurement is EVPUs only.

EDIT: The forum software doesn't handle the script code correctly. I'm attaching a working script.


function plugindef()
   -- This function and the 'finaleplugin' namespace
   -- are both reserved for the plug-in definition.
   finaleplugin.RequireSelection = true
   return "Set Space Before/After Measure", "Space Before/After", "Sets the space before/after measure values in the selected region."
end

local dialog = finenv.UserValueInput()
dialog:SetTypes("Number", "Number")
dialog:SetDescriptions("Space before measure:", "Space after measure:")
local result = dialog:Execute()
if not result then return end

local region =finenv.Region()
for measureno = region.StartMeasure, region.EndMeasure do
    local measuredata = finale.FCMeasure()
    measuredata:Load(measureno)
    measuredata.SpaceBefore = result
    measuredata.SpaceAfter = result
    measuredata:Save()
end


Jari Williamsson

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Post Edited (Jari Williamsson) : 11/5/2013 3:31:40 AM (GMT-6)


Posted By : Rudy B - 11/5/2013 12:37 PM
Thanks Jari! That works for me until MM fixes it.


Rudy Bueckert
Rudy's Music & Printing

Finale 2014, Finale 2011c (have used 2006-2014)
MacBook Pro Retina 15-in, 2.6Ghz Crystalwell, 16GB RAM (coming soon)
MacBook Pro 17-in, 2.83Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM
Mac OS X 10.9 | Windows 8 Pro 64-bit (Parallels)