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Posted By : Forum Admin - 1/13/2004 1:04 PM
The Finale 2004 Macintosh OS X disc is in production and we expect to start shipping by January 16. More information will be on our website this afternoon. Thank you for you continued patience and support.

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Posted By : habibbijan - 1/13/2004 1:14 PM
>>Pinching myself to see if this is a dream<<

Hot dawg!

Brian Bondari
"Writing music with theory in mind is like wearing underwear that's too tight. It's restricting!"

Posted By : ottowest - 1/13/2004 1:39 PM
[Sheds a tear of joy] "Sniff" I am now at one with the cosmos.

"Macintosh - We might not get everything right, but at least we knew the century was going to end."

"The Macintosh may only have 10% of the market, but it is clearly the top 10%."

-Douglas Adams-

Posted By : ctj - 1/13/2004 2:11 PM
freaked Holy and merciful God... it is a miracle.

Posted By : Treble - 1/13/2004 2:37 PM
Whoopie!!!! I'm salivating

Posted By : B K - 1/13/2004 3:07 PM
Nasty as we are, we'll start bug bashing soon;)


I'm glad they finally did it

Posted By : encephalon - 1/13/2004 3:08 PM
I won't believe it until I see it — this Thursday at NAMM. It better be frickin' amazing.


Posted By : TechSupport - 1/13/2004 4:31 PM
Here is the link to the updated information on our webpage regarding Finale 2004:

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Posted By : Matthew Hindson - 1/13/2004 5:20 PM
Thank you Makemusic for at least being upfront about the EPS issues. Looks like we're going to be the same as the WinXP version now in that regard!

Posted By : the elephant - 1/13/2004 6:11 PM
Let's all shed a tear for poor, little FinMac2K4aUpdater. He never had a chance. Long live 2004a!


Mama always told me to eschew obfuscation.

Posted By : ludwigtheman - 1/13/2004 7:02 PM
That would be about the last thing you would find me shedding tears over.

Posted By : musicofnote - 1/13/2004 7:06 PM
Good that they arre upfront about not including EPS in the intial release. That means that any high-end formatting stays a MacFin2003 gig. At least we can plan on that.

Wierd about the the PS export. Since OS X creates a .pdf to print from and then nukes it after printing, I wonder about the difficultly of getting a print-to-disk PS file out the door. Can it really be so difficult? Especially, if I'm not mistaken, the front end of a .PDF is a PICT-related file and the back-end is the PS-code representation of same.

But then again, I'm no programmer, just a lowly user.

Well, anyway - the tech dept did get me too up and running with print-out under Classic with Panther via Adobe 8.8 so that's something. I C A N now use fin2K3 on my Cube and my beige-on-G4-steroids.

I just need more patience until these two things are added, since 2004-on-Windows sucks for the same reason. well, "sucks" might be a bit strong, but it's just as unusable for me (as is Win2K3 et al for the same reason).

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Posted By : Tyler - 1/13/2004 7:09 PM
I'm sure you're aware of this, but I wanted to clarify that all of the fixes that went into 2k4a were put in this first Mac 2k4 release (as well as other things we were able to fix along the way). You won't have to wait for 2k4b for those things.
Thanks for sticking with us. :-)

Posted By : gwysham - 1/13/2004 11:05 PM
You know, it occurs to me that a nice gesture would be expedited shipping for all of us loyal users.


Looking forward to Fin2k4
OS X 10.2.8
iMac G4 Flat-panel

Posted By : Slandrom - 1/14/2004 3:46 AM
Short happiness! With no EPS-export I have to continue with 2002. And perhaps cancel my order and wait for 2005. Why pay $ 265 for an upgrade I probably only can use some few months?


2002b, MacOSX 10.3 sometimes Win98, TgTools 2.25, QuicKeys X2, 2.0.2

Posted By : Bart Visser - 1/14/2004 10:42 AM
I don't get it. With the ability to save a page as PDF, and Panthers ability to convert a PDF to an EPS what's the big deal. It would clearly be quicker to directly save as EPS but then again. This is much better than wait a few extra months (or maybe a lot longer) for Fin20o4b (or 2005 for that matter).

Posted By : B K - 1/15/2004 1:12 AM
I do think people should show some more enthusiasm.

Posted By : Richard Rasch - 1/15/2004 9:57 AM
B K said...
I do think people should show some more enthusiasm.

I think they are showing enthusiasm by the simple fact that they are STILL HERE!!
Sticking with Finale after this OS X debacle takes enthusiasm and a whole lot more!

Posted By : kignature - 1/15/2004 4:23 PM
Bart Visser said...
I don't get it. With the ability to save a page as PDF, and Panthers ability to convert a PDF to an EPS
Uhh... how do you convert to EPS from PDF without Acrobat or GhostScript?

"If I ever lose my mind, I hope some honest person will find it and take it to the lost and found." --George Carlin

Posted By : Richard Rasch - 1/15/2004 4:28 PM
kignature said...
Uhh... how do you convert to EPS from PDF without Acrobat or GhostScript?

Adobe Illustrator is one way to do it. Opens PDF files and exports EPS files.

Posted By : Bart Visser - 1/15/2004 5:04 PM
I use Panther (OS X 10.3) and I'm not sure if you can do this with Jaguar (OS X 10.2).

- First you have to install the Script-menu (find it in /applications/AppleScript/install Script Menu).
- In the script-menu choose the folder 'Printing Scripts' and then choose 'convert PDF to PostScript' (with the PDF-file selected).
- The file-icon now says EPS (the file-extention says .ps).

I don't know much about these things, so I could be wrong, but I think this may be a workaround for the problem.

Posted By : solvin - 1/19/2004 1:50 PM
When is EPS support expected to be avaliable?